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Stu
00:00:03
This is Stu from 180 Nutrition. And welcome to another episode of The Health Sessions. It’s here that we connect with the world’s best experts in health, wellness, and human performance in an attempt to cut through the confusion around what it actually takes to achieve a long lasting health. Now I’m sure that’s something that we all strive to have. I certainly do.
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This week, I’m excited to welcome Dr. Tommy John to the podcast. Dr. Tommy owns and operates the Dr. Tommy John Performance and Healing Center in San Diego, California, where he provides individualized care plans, incorporating a truly holistic approach to health. In this episode, we discuss the fundamentals of what it means to become resilient at a time when it seems that the odds are against us. We dive into nutrition, movement, sleep and mindset in order to reclaim our health, strength and vitality. Over to Dr. Tommy.
Hey guys, this is Stu from 180 Nutrition, and I am delighted to welcome Dr. Tommy John to the podcast. Dr. Tommy, how are you mate?
Tom
00:01:30
I’m doing very well. How are you?
Stu
00:01:31
Yeah, really, really good. Really, really good. Thank you so much for giving us the opportunity to dive into your area of expertise. I’m really looking forward to the conversation, but first up for all of our listeners that may not be familiar with you or your work, I would love it if you could just tell us a little bit about yourself, please.
Tom
00:01:50
Yeah, so I call myself a performance and healing specialist. I’m more of a facilitator of sorts, where I have chiropractic in a background. I have training and rehab. But we put together the emotional health, meditation, spiritual, purpose, relationships, outdoor light exposure, nourishment, and movement and we bring it all together and all I’m trying to do in my facility, on my pages, and my social, when I interact with anybody is just to empower people to know that they’re self-healing, self-regulating, everything they have is within them. And if they can just access that and almost get out of the way and let themselves be their best self, whatever I can do to help facilitate putting them in the best position possible to be able to adapt, survive and thrive in this life. That’s my job. So if it’s a career, it’s passion, I’ve never worked a day in the last 20 years.
Stu
00:02:47
Fantastic. Then I think we’re going to have a lot to talk about this morning. Fantastic. So I’ve heard the term medical freedom activist used on your social accounts, and I’m keen just to understand a little bit about what that actually means.
Tom
00:03:06
Yeah. So specifically it’s what we’re seeing now without getting into really the deep nuggets of it, but we’re hearing words that there’s going to be a mandated vaccine. And so when you look at that mandated, that’s a forced medical intervention. I’m trying to sit here and see, that’s the hill I’m going to die on, meaning you’re penetrating my skin with a medical approach that I don’t even believe in at all against my will. That goes against everything we’ve been born of. That goes against common law, natural law, bodily sovereignty, what we were born. I mean, that breaks every rule about what it is to be human. So one, I’m a medical freedom activist to fight for. They gave us that term anti-vax. I’m not anti-vax, I’m just pro information. And we should be able to go into any office anywhere, go into a doctor’s office, go into a medical establishment, ask questions, learn about ingredients, learn about the risks with every procedure, even cancer, even chemo, hormone therapy, rehab, chiropractic.
You name it. I should be able to go into an office, ask about the risks. If there’s some sort of a drug or an injection, what’s in it? What could possibly happen? They have to divulge everything. The freedom of it is they have to expose everything. And then you get to choose freely what you do with your body in a medical state or your children’s body or your husband or your loved ones. That’s what I’m fighting for because we’re seeing it directly attacked right now. And I can’t picture a world where we aren’t free to make our medical decisions and choose what we want to do with our health. That’s something I can’t fathom and I’m willing to die for.
Stu
00:04:58
Definitely, definitely unusual times without a shadow of a doubt. And we are being told this is for your convenience. This is for the best of your health. And on that word convenience, I’ve heard you use the phrase that convenience devolves you and I get that completely, but I’d love for you just to dig a little bit deeper into that because we are the creatures of comfort now these days. And I just don’t feel like we’re thriving. So I’m keen to hear what that means from your perspective.
Tom
00:05:32
It’s interesting. So I’m not a big reader. I’m a big feeler I’m a big intuitive. So everything that I do and have done in my practice and everything, somebody then comes around and goes, “Oh, you know, so-and-so wrote about what you’re doing.” And I’m like, “I don’t know.” Call it whatever you want. Whoever wrote a book us just pulling it from somewhere inside every human ever in the history of human. They’re just positioning it in their own way. So I started to look at all the things that I… I choose difficulty as often as I can. I choose to stand instead of sitting. I choose stairs instead of escalators. I choose walking instead of a moveable path. The airport’s hilarious. Nobody taking the stairs and everyone’s waiting in line to ride up on on the escalator. I carry my groceries. I walk to the grocery store.
No shit, listen to me. I keep my knives dull. So you really have to concentrate on cutting. And I know that sounds funny. Hold on. Because you have to engage. I was like my groin, my feet. When I’m cutting vegetables, when it’s conveniently sharpened, it’s an ease to the system. I don’t like power tools. So I manually will screw stuff in. It takes a long time and it’s very, very stimulating, but here’s the thing of the body. It’s designed to grow through discomfort and resistance. So every time we choose ease, it technically, for lack of better framing, it devolves. It’s not stimulated to grow. So it has to drop back, because it has to be one or the other. It’s not flat. It’s either going or down, it’s going or down. It’s ebbs and flows.
But I try to look at all the conveniences we have access to and all the choices that we’ve made. And I’ve been doing this for 20 years. I spoke to Ollie Ollerton. Do you know-
Stu
00:07:25
I’ve heard the name.
Tom
00:07:26
Okay, so he’s special forces, SAS, bad-ass. And he made a comment. The way he says it is perfect. He’s like, “We’re the weakest humanity’s ever been.” And I was like, I absolutely agree because I’ve witnessed it. It’s not just physical strength. It’s emotional, mental, spiritual strength, connection strength, nourishment. It’s the resiliency of the entire system. We’ve chosen, ease and convenience so much that the human worldwide has devolved so badly that not only are we easy pickings for stepping off of a curb, Achilles gone, or pulling a seatbelt across wow. Blown rotator cuff. Or making love to somebody and all of a sudden you blow out or just laying in bed. Also a threat of some kind, which we’re seeing a global suggestion, yeah, sure, come and take us.
And my buddy and I just, without getting into something, my colleague and good friend, Vladimir [Chogoose 00:08:30], we have been noticing for the last three years a huge drop-off in evolution of the human. And we can’t believe that people don’t think anymore. They’ve lost common sense. They’re not nourished. They’re disconnected. They’re sympathetic dominant. They’re under slept. They’re over-scheduled, they’re over-coached. It’s all this stuff. We’ve never seen it before. We knew there was a precipice coming. We didn’t know it was going to be in the version of this. We thought it wasn’t going to be more like an alien invasion or something cool. We were just saying we can’t continue like this. There’s just no way we can survive like this. And I think this is where I liken what’s going on to the great detox, or people realizing we’re not doing well.
Stu
00:09:14
No, no. Well, exactly right. And what’s happening right now to the world. Boy, oh boy. We’ve never been so susceptible to a respiratory virus. Why aren’t we more resilient? Seriously. What’s going on? Yes. Very, very interesting. So I was keen to connect with you because you wrote your sports parents survival guide book, but it from what I’ve been reading into it, it seems to be more of a overall survival guide for everyone. And that’s what I really want to dial into today because just like you said, we are so convenient, we’re so comfy. We’re so disconnected from everything that we, over the millennia, have been built to be robust against right now. And now we’re just this flappy, floppy, listless lifeless society of people that are genuinely plugged in and connected 24/7. So run us through the survival guide and give us a little bit of an intro in terms of how some of the principles in that book might make us more resilient.
Tom
00:10:31
So it’s my life’s work. It was released, it was published in 2018. At that time there were youth sports injury epidemics. There was actually a true epidemic. There was spinal stress fractures, concussions in girls soccer that trumps football. We know about concussions in football and hockey. Pediatric ligament tears, ACL tears in pediatrics, nine and 10 year olds. And then you throw in Tommy John surgery, which is an elbow surgery in throwers. These were happening in children at epidemic degenerative levels. In 2018 was when I released the book, but did it started 2008, ’09. It was starting to shift.
Well, the low hanging fruit on a publishing of a book tree is Tommy John’s son, the original Tommy John, the original guy with the elbow surgery. His son is trying to prevent a surgery named after his dad that’s happening more in teenagers than adults or professionals. God, there’s a book idea. So the thing was, I was positioned and put in front of on a national level, sports, sports, sports parents, sports parents, sports. But what I was talking about was if you’re trying to get a kid in a state of resiliency, like you said in a state of robust nature, the ability to handle infections and falls and the trials and tribulations that come with just growing, you’re going to need to put the entire holistic dynamic, starting with kids health isn’t separate from parents’ health. The parents, they literally are imitators. The kids are imitators of what mom and dad do.
But now we have households where mom or dad will bark at the kids to move or go outside and play while mom and dad sitting behind their phones. Or you can’t have a phone, but I’m going to have a phone. Or you have to eat this food, but I’m going to be sneaking this one and be drinking with mom and dad on the couch and do. So we had this huge disconnect in the family construct. And so I was trying to provide a manual. I call it a survival guide for life, really, because I didn’t want people to come into my office. I didn’t want to see them anymore. I wanted to put it in their hands, because everyone’s like, “Oh, I wish I had you out in Ohio. I wish you were in New Jersey.”
No, I’m not the thing. Just like a doctor’s not the thing, a specialist isn’t the thing. You’re the guru. Your family is the guru. You’re the household. You’re the secret. You’re the essence. So it was a construct of four principles that we broke down into a solution, because everybody was barking all this fear and stating the data and the narratives. And it was like, Oh, baseball’s got it because of pitch counts. Football is because of helmets and too much hitting when they’re younger. And hockey is so overdone. And it’s like, there has to be a whole thing, what we’re seeing now. What’s the common denominators?
Okay. If we rethink, replenish, rebuild and recover. Rethink the childhood sports paradigm, just rethink it. Don’t specialize. Don’t even get into competitive sports other than free play outside till you’re 12 or 13. So extend that out. But that’s for everybody. The whole family going outside together, going on trips, vacations, everybody being active, taking vacations instead of going into a travel league.
The replenish section, getting back into nourishing ourselves, not a diet, but nourishment from homemade meals. Connecting with families, making food homemade, teaching your kids how to make food, how to shop, how to identify, going to a farmer’s market, forming a relationship with a local farm. I think that’s vital now because grocery stores aren’t to be trusted. A local farm where you know the farmer and you can see what’s going into your food because the bigger picture is we, aren’t what we eat. We are what we assimilate and digest. And that energetic exchange with where that food came from, how it’s prepared, what it means to our family and how we really cherish the bite.
Then there’s the re-build section. It’s just trying to teach kids how to be kids again, man. Do you have any kids?
Stu
00:14:43
I have three young daughters.
Tom
00:14:45
You saw them when they came out of mom and then from zero to three, it’s our great training results in our lives. We go from a paralyzed little ball of flesh that’s really uninteresting. You’re just watching it just laying there. And then all of a sudden, everything they’re doing is to map out the programs needing to basically roll over, sit up, stand and then walk. And they do this. We teach ourselves from paralysis to walking in a year to 16 months, 14 months. That’s crazy. 30,000 attempts to take three successful steps. We fall on our butt. We struggle. We try. We’re not competing against other babies. We’re just moving for the sake of moving. A Serbian neuroscientist, I think, said six year olds should move a cumulative amount of six miles a day. Six years old. So think about that. And that’s a frigging six year old and it only gets more. So we got to think of what that means. Free play outdoors, letting them struggle, not swaddling them, not sitting them up in chairs, not putting a screen in front of their eyes, letting them explore, letting them go and then getting to the point where they’re 12, 13, 14. All right. Now we’re going to get into a little more of a specific nature, but it’s bringing the
00:16:00
… principles of movement back, not training, but moving. Because humans were designed to move. And then finally, we are only what we can recover from. And right now, if you think about it, I think of it as a bucket with a bunch of drops in it. And when we train… I just had a woman who came in and was training and rehabbing. So she’s adding more drops to the bucket. Stress from relationship, drops to the bucket. Work stress, drop in the bucket. Tough relationship, maybe not such an ideal [food 00:16:31] drop in the bucket. There’s all these buckets and then we spill it over. And that spill we want to look at that drop because that spill is like an injury or a disease or something like that. And we want to point to that one drop. But the bucket’s been filling. So what the recovery methods do with like breath, meditation, prayer, sleep, being aware, mindfulness, some meditative or recovery movements, walking, walking, distance, breathing through nose, getting outside, you empty the bucket.
And if you empty the bucket, that means you can take more and bring up that threshold of what’s going to break you or not. And so right now we can go and raise that threshold up and what would normally break you, an infection, a divorce, fight, a tough training thing or a sport demand or anything else, it doesn’t even sniff your threshold because you just raised it up. And now you’re talking about evolution, but that’s what the manual goes, is nine recipes, trial tests, three programs that are beginner, intermediate, advanced that nobody’s gone through the intermediate that I know of. We had to make them so distinct that you wouldn’t just jump forward because you can’t survive. It’s too much. You have to evolve through it.
But there’s like 300 pages, 98 scientific sources, it’s packed. It’s packed and it’s flagable, writing it, make notes, but it is literally one of those things that, what’s cool man. And I said this because people are starting to reach out now and they’re like, “Hey, do you have a book for parents or my grandparents?” I’m like yeah, take that, Minimize Injury Maximize Performance Sports Parents Survival Guide, cross it off and just write grandparents survival guide. It’s the same thing. It just doesn’t even matter. It’s going to sit on coffee tables and it’s ageless. That’s what’s cool, it’s evergreen.
Stu
00:18:20
Exactly right. Where would we start? Which elements do you think would be the most powerful? Because I look at it from a perspective of, we’re kind of screwed because we’re in this digital era that has just taken away all of our attention, all of our downtime, all of our free play, free thoughts. It has indoctrinated our children into these little mini zombies who are now wired and tired and depressed and anxious. Seriously, as children where did this come from? We’ve got toxic water, toxic food. We’ve been told to stay out of the sun. We’re given a pill for every sniffle that we have. Where would we start? which would be the most powerful of these pillars perhaps to address first up?
Tom
00:19:14
What I did is… I don’t know if you saw this or not, but I’m fascinated by radical remission stories, so that like they’ve been given a death sentence by the allopathic medical side, they’re just like, “No, you can’t heal this you need [our space let’s take 00:00:19:29] about of your family because this is it we’ve labeled you.” And I love the people, I’m just not going to take that. That doesn’t sit well with me. I was born for more than this. Let me go [inaudible 00:19:40] something else, back to that medical freedom side by the way. So they heal themselves and there’s all these stories of all these great miracle healing stories. I’m like they’re not really miracles, it’s just kind of what the body does. It’s what it’s designed to do. I’m like, shit. So I started to look at what those radical remission stories were.
And then I was having a bunch of conversations over the years with 90 plus year olds that seemed joyous. They seemed pretty content with their lives and they were with it. They were coherent and sharp. And I asked them all the time like. What’s your… I always pose them like, what’s your secret? On purpose to get a response that they’re like, “Secret? What the hell are you talking about.” I mean every single one of them was like, “what the hell are you talking about, it’s everything.” But when they would share their stories and then I’d read other things on these radical remissions, it came down to these eight things. And I know that you asked for like, where do we start? I truly think if every single household, every single individual, everybody listening to this right now, do this at home, make a list of these eight, vertical.
But understand that in real world, the eight are folded on each other and like a quantum ball. Because they’re all just spinning. Okay. So nothing’s linear, but we’re going to write it linearly. So the first one, and these are the essentials to health and healing. It’s literally it. And health and healing is basically your ability to adapt to any stimulus life gives you, which we’re all going through some crazy stimuli right now. So it’s in this threat right now, with whatever you want to say, even the government or a virus or social media or the media, it doesn’t matter. Put yourself in the best position possible to be able to make a good decision for you and your family. And you’re going to be able to adapt and thrive and go. This is just another thing in the way.
So these eight, the first one, a belief in something greater than yourself. So if we sit there is a religion, is it not? I don’t care. It’s whatever it is to you, something bigger than you that is running the show that you’re working with because you’re answering to that. That is what’s operating your system and you’re working with that power inside.
Stu
00:21:49
That isn’t Facebook.
Tom
00:21:55
Shit. I like the antithesis, it might be the antichrist in whatever religion version you’re going to go with. So yes, belief in something bigger than yourself that’s not Facebook or Instagram.
Number two, a purpose. I like small, medium and large. A woman who’s kicking psychiatric meds. Her name is Darcy. She’s [red river riding 00:00:22:20] on Instagram. I’ll put her out there. She’s awesome. She stopped psychiatric meds, the process, and she said, “You know what? My purpose for today, I got out of bed. I made coffee. I walked out in the grass. I came inside. I went right back to bed, success.” For her that was a success. That was her purpose for the day. So we have small, medium and large, grand purpose, medium. But you got to have some reason. You got to have some reason for doing something, which nobody has now. Nobody has a reason for doing so. They just do it because they’ve been told to or do it because they’re supposed to do it.
Three, and this is my biggest in my inventory. This is the toughest one for me. It’s relationships. It’s anybody you interact with, even anybody you think about, you have a relationship with that person and Dr. Christiane Northrup calls them the energy vampires. Those people [that 00:23:11] you know, they’re not challenging you to be better. And they also don’t help your belief and your purpose. They don’t even support you, get them out. You want nothing to do with them, put up a wall just… And even if it’s family. You got to keep them at distance, and it’s okay. You’re not selfish. And there’s nothing wrong with that, but our relationships. Number four, sleep and naps. Critical, critical, critical, critical, critical, critical. Everybody’s under slept, everybody. Zach Bush just did a big thing on sleep. He’s been targeting that and he posted avocado mattress, which I just bought one, fantastic mattresses by the way.
Number five, breath, meditation or prayer, whatever being conscious of your breath, being conscious of that spirit inside and connecting with that. I love meditating. It’s a non-negotiable for me. Every morning, oceanside if I can. I walk down to the ocean. When I was in Chicago I sat in my car in the cold and played Ocean Soundscapes. So I was just projecting to where I felt best.
Number six, natural light exposure. Getting outside on the other side of the window. But what if it’s freezing? Dress warm. What if it’s raining, dress appropriately.
Stu
00:24:23
That’s it.
Tom
00:24:24
[Because you are 00:24:24] outside, done. Because everyone’s like, “It’s easy for you, you’re in San Diego.” Yeah, that’s why I moved out here. But I used to live in the Satan’s armpit or Satan’s butthole called Northern Illinois. And it’s like, there was no sun for like 17 days, but I had to figure out ways to bundle up, go outside, stare at the sun, or get around the corner where there was no wind and just breathe fresh air. Let the sun hit yourself. Let the wind hit your skin. Let the elements be exposed to your body. Natural light exposure.
Number seven, nourishment of relationship with farms, making homemade meals. Know your source. Whatever approach to eating you do, know your source, know your farmer, make them homemade, make everything homemade. I make mayonnaise my dressings, kombucha, every bone broth, everything’s from scratch.
And then number eight movement, body movement. So whatever that means to you, it could be just a big walk or it could be taking the steps at your work or whatever it is.
But when you take this inventory and your question was, “Where could we start?” If you just look at that inventory and you take an honest, vulnerable, open assessment, because a lot of people are like, “Nope, I’m good.” And they’re complaining that they’re… Have some sort of situation going on. It’s like, wait, it’s always going to come down to some imbalance in those eight. And I mean, radical remissions to the happy 90 plus year old. Everything you need is going to be in those eight. And you be honest with them. And some day might be a nourishment day. It might be a real change in nourishment. We’re really going to try to make a meal today and we going to do okay, because you can’t be a 100% of all eight, you’d go too thin. Do you know what I mean?
Stu
00:24:24
Yeah.
Tom
00:26:07
So today’s a real nourishment heavy day, even though all of them should be, but we’re really going to work on today. Today’s like a good breath day. I really focus on my sleep. Wow, I sleep real well. And you just kind of cycle through those eight and you’re always taking an inventory of those eight and you’ll start to see that your body, the symptoms you’re getting, the feelings you’re getting is just the alarms going on with the body’s trying to get your attention. When you attend to these eight, you’re putting it in a position that’s helping it heal itself and it will. And when it does those feelings subside and you got the lesson that you were supposed to get from those feelings or that swelling goes away, or your skin clears up, or your digestion improves, your gas, your bloating, the nerve tingling in your numbness, I mean everything just starts to go away because you put it in the best position possible using those essentials. So again, that’s as simple as it gets. And some people are like, “Man, TJ, that’s really simple.” I’m like, I know because the allopathic medical model and the medical model controlling the government and media [printing 00:27:15] in big tech, they make it sound so complicated. So you can’t believe that you have any ability to govern yourself. They need you to doubt that healing, sustainability, happiness, education, there’s no way you can do it without us. And that’s just not true-
Stu
00:27:35
Absolutely.
Tom
00:27:35
… that’s not at all true. And you start to grab back that power that you’ve got inside you when you start to look at this stuff and you’re like, “I can do all this.” And for the most part, it’s all free.
Stu
00:27:45
Totally.
Tom
00:27:45
Except the food. You know what I mean? The food, maybe, everything else is just given to us, which is the way it should be.
Stu
00:27:53
Absolutely. And I absolutely love everything that you’ve just said because every one of those pillars, those areas, supports our natural biochemistry. It supports the systems that restore or revive and just give us that zing. And it’s really, it’s fascinating, because I have this little morning routine where I get up reasonably early. I head to the beach. The sun’s just coming up. So I get all this natural light and I swim in the ocean, and I swim in the ocean until I am freezing, freezing, shivering. And the ocean is not cold where I am. The ocean is nice and warm, but I don’t have-
Tom
00:28:30
What is it? Do you know what the degrees are?
Stu
00:28:31
Oh, at the moment, it’d be about 21 degrees.
Tom
00:28:34
21 Celsius. Do we have any idea what that is fahrenheit?
Stu
00:28:37
Oh, Oh no.
Tom
00:28:39
I want to see how much of a baby I am because it’s 60 right now. And I won’t step in it, it’s so warm.
Stu
00:28:45
Oh, really. Well, let’s have a look, 21 [crosstalk 00:28:51] degrees Fahrenheit. So we’d be looking at 70, about 70.
Tom
00:28:56
Oh my God. I mean that’s still…
Stu
00:28:58
Yeah, I know. So…
Tom
00:28:59
That’s great.
Stu
00:29:00
But this little routine, which I will do irrespective of the weather, irrespective of the time of year, it’s about the most energizing thing that I’ve ever done in my life. We would not red bull out of the window, like caffeine [crosstalk 00:13:17], whatever the stimulants are, it just charges you. And then that sets you up for the day to make better choices. I feel like exercising now, my sleep is better. My mindset is better. And all of these things, like you say for the most part are free.
Tom
00:29:32
Yeah.
Stu
00:29:33
But it brings us back to that convenience devolves you, because we don’t like to be cold.
Tom
00:29:38
No.
Stu
00:29:38
But you know what? Being cold or being too hot, it’s that hormetic stress where it’s kind of good for us. We were built for this stuff. Makes us more resilient.
Tom
00:29:48
Totally.
Stu
00:29:49
And I just absolutely loved that stuff.
Tom
00:29:51
[inaudible 00:29:51].
Stu
00:29:52
I just support that a 100%, and if people could just, like you said, just take a little bit of an honest look about all of those areas and think, “Well, how am I actually scoring on these? Where could I make these tweaks and adjustments to the machine?”
Tom
00:30:08
And I will say with what everyone’s going through right now, people respond to those eight and they respond to the posts where I talk about those eight. Because that’s [inaudible 00:30:17] I live. I’m constantly running an inventory in my head. I’ve never written one down, but I’m always thinking about them. Everything I do is in those eight. So my [inaudible 00:30:25] actions, if they’re not helping that, I really will be like, ah, no. And I mean, it might come to the point to where I was going to go with friends to do this. And it just didn’t seem [inaudible 00:30:34] because it didn’t benefit one of those eight and it wasn’t something that’s just like, oh, I’m just going to be a free will human who’s just tearing it up. No, I’m good. But the ones who are applying it now, they’re really empowered in a state right now where everyone’s kind of terrified.
And they’re just like, “You know what? You made it sound so simple. You reminded me that it is simple and I’ve applied it, and I’ve changed my life. And they may be alone in a loft somewhere in, they’re not [there 00:15:02], but they’re starting to see that when they do that work, the energy emitted from them in this little hole in an apartment is affecting all the apartments near them and affecting everybody around. And if we all started to do just a couple little things here or there, damn, those are huge antennas, all radiating the same. That’s the change that we need for that 3% of the globe to then change this whole thing. Do you know what I mean?
Stu
00:31:27
I know exactly what you mean, totally.
Tom
00:31:27
So we this [crosstalk 00:15:27]. I’ll do that. For sure we can do that.
Stu
00:31:32
Yeah. It’s [just that 00:15:33] the weirdest thing. And when we start to think that we are more empowered and we do have the ability to take action over our own bodies. Then we kind of start to tap into this whole placebo thing as well, where we can actually change our biochemistry just with our thoughts-
Tom
00:31:32
[inaudible 00:31:53].
Stu
00:31:52
… which is radical stuff. And things start to happen as they’re meant to be. And doors start
00:32:00
… to open when we start to think in a slightly different way, which kind of takes me on to the digital age at the moment.
Tom
00:32:08
Yeah.
Stu
00:32:09
I’ve got three young-ish daughters. I’ve got twins at 12 and eldest is 15. But they’ve been born into the digital age, and I sound like I’m the grumpy old man to them. The grumpy dad that says, “Girls, like I remember before this, and life was good.” We went out and we weren’t beholden to selfies and taking our phone and distracted. We used to go out and I used to take a coin in my pocket if I needed to make a phone call, which I never did. I used a payphone. But now there’s so much distraction. What are your thoughts on children born into this digital age, parents trying to manage for the first time, digital children. How do we get out of this? Because it’s not going away.
Tom
00:32:56
No. I don’t have kids, and so when I … It’s a good thing and a bad thing. One, it’s good because I don’t have the bias of my own kids but I can stand unbiased and observe. Right? I can take an inventory of just like, “Wow, that seems to be working. Oh, they did a different approach. Oh, these are all really great things.” But then my credibility in giving child advices is like, “You don’t have kids.” Okay, but that’s fine. I’m a great observer.
But Natalie Jill, she’s a fitness expert out here in business woman and mentor and stuff like that, and she said on our podcast, her 12-year-old female daughters was acting very mature too quick. You know what I mean? It was just too much. She’s was just like, “What the hell is going on” Because we’re not raising them like … and it totally was a social media expression. She’s like, “No, no,” and just, done. That was it. Because she saw the personality totally change in her twelve-year-old and she was like, “Abso-(beep)-lutely not is this happening.”
She explained to her daughter, it was a family discussion. Everybody was on board, nobody was bashing anybody. They explained what was happening. She knows she’ll have a, she has a phone to communicate but it’s not this constant internet access. Right? Or apps. She’ll get that as she goes to college or whatever she chooses to do. So I think one is invoking some sort of control there. You can’t have them out of communication because phones are good. There’s a flip style or there’s like a light phone that doesn’t have access [crosstalk 00:34:45].
Stu
00:34:44
Yeah, dumb phones. Yeah.
Tom
00:34:46
Nothing wrong with that. From a safety standpoint, communication, that’s great. But these kids also, I was told … a friend of mine, I was having a conversation with her this morning. She’s like, “You literally are 12 in every sense of the word,” because I’ve simplified my life so much that I kind of been like a 12-year-old with adult responsibilities. I’m always trying to play and have fun. I feel like life should be literally like a 12-year-old. You watch them, and they’re just carefree. We’re not really into like, obsessing about the other sex and getting into all that. We’re not going into bars or doing … it was just play and games and simple and you looked at the purity of everything. You weren’t really clouded yet of a lot of stuff. It was as pure as I think I … my greatest memories come in like sixth grade and this year. Sixth grade and 2020 are like my greatest years of my life.
Stu
00:35:40
Wow.
Tom
00:35:41
So I was literally, what do we do? She said this morning, she’s like, “You’ll literally look like that kid who’s just doing his own thing, and somebody would go up to that kid and want to stick something in their hand to keep them busy.” Right? We have these phones or a game or a pad. A book is fine if they choose the book, but what’s going on when that kid is idle and they’re doing … they’re fantasizing, they’re creating a world for themselves. They’re learning, they’re touching. Let them be. It’s almost like in idleness comes laziness, and it’s like, wait …
Stu
00:36:19
No. Yeah.
Tom
00:36:20
What’s [inaudible 00:36:21], to be sitting in front of a phone just staring like a zombie or letting somebody stare off into the wind and watching the trees? Or watching a little girl figure out that like, roly-polies roll up when you touch him. You know what I mean? Or a worm feels like this, or a little girl stomping in a puddle. There was a little girl outside my office bombing in a puddle. She had these oversized rain boots on. It was the most adorable thing ever, right?
Stu
00:36:20
Yeah.
Tom
00:36:46
She’s stomping and I’m like, “Guys, guys, hold on, hold on.” The whole office was in, I’m like, “Watch this.” And we counted. She must’ve jumped, which was a plyometric …
Stu
00:36:56
Yeah.
Tom
00:36:56
I mean, she’s jumping, right?
Stu
00:36:56
Yeah.
Tom
00:36:57
She’s like four, she’s just pounding the water like 40 times. I’m like, “Okay, that’s 40 plyometric jumps.” Water’s everywhere. She’s learning about water properties, she’s learning how it’s displaced. She’s feeling her feet proprioceptively, there is an impulse to the system. Her brain is just igniting in all these ways; otherwise, she wouldn’t do it. What did mom do?
Stu
00:36:57
Tell her to stop?
Tom
00:37:20
[inaudible 00:05:22], “Stop that.”
Stu
00:37:24
Yeah.
Tom
00:37:25
Now, it’d be one thing if it’s stop that because the water is getting on somebody painting or there’s art or you’re going into … this little girl is outside in a storm in California. The little girl then stops and looks at mom and just like looks at her feet and was kind of confused as to what’s going on. Mom turned back around and the little girl just bombed some more and I was in full support of that disobeying nature … that again, some would be like, okay, at a restaurant or at a place, so put a phone in front of them because it just dociles them, man. They’re just like, launched. They’re out, they’re catatonic, instead of letting them explore their lives that way. It’s too much stimulus.
Dude, even just the bits of information off the phones. I get this. I don’t know if you get this. I abused my social media time for my channel, for sure. I know I hit limits and I know that there’s a level that I break and it’s not healthy. I know this and I admit it, but I will get these eye headaches, because the eye has six muscles. When they’re interpreting this information, there’s so many bits with HD and 4k and all this shit, that all of a sudden now it gets tired. My eyes get tired and I get these headaches. I’m like, damn. But it’s the stimulus headache. When we have that stimuli coming in, you can’t … it’s a sympathetic response. So if the sympathetics ramp, what does immune do? It drops.
Stu
00:38:52
Yeah.
Tom
00:38:52
We’re sitting in inverted state 24/7 because we’re not sleeping. We’re just like, middle, you know? We’re not recovering at all. So now, put that into youth, or put that into an elderly person trying to process something, or put that into somebody who’s trying to change a job, or trying to figure out where they’re going to homeschool, do all this stuff. Do you know what I mean?
Stu
00:39:13
Totally.
Tom
00:39:14
It’s this lack of idle. We got to bring back being idle for the sake of youth, for the sake of adults, and disconnect as much as possible. I know a lot of people, Dr. Kelly Brogan, Sayer Ji, Tom Collin, Dr. Tom Collin, a bunch of my friends, they’re going back to wired phones, ethernet computers, they’re going off grid totally. One, for safety, not trusting what’s happening. Two, they see that the future is not good, being more disconnected, it’s not going to be survivable.
Stu
00:39:50
No. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. I mean, let kids be kids as best they can. I wonder if you had a class full of clients and asked them to do 40 plyometric jumps, how they would feel afterwards, right? And the little girl probably wasn’t even puffed.
Tom
00:40:06
I said that girl, that little girl had no coach and she’s going to go till she’s disinterested. I’ll do it in my office, everyone’s like, how many of these do I got, sets till disinterested?
Stu
00:40:17
Exactly right.
Tom
00:40:18
Everybody scrunches their eyebrows and they’re like, “Are you serious?” And I’m like, “Yeah.” And they’re like … then I would just stop right now. It’s like, well, no, because your purpose brought you here.
Stu
00:40:26
That’s right.
Tom
00:40:27
You have a reason, so based on reason, go till you don’t want to go anymore. They’ll get like 108, 2200, 8. I mean, it literally will vary and it’s like, who am I to judge? I don’t know. I’m not you. Go. You can be a little girl jumping in a puddle in my office.
Stu
00:40:45
I love it. I love it. Maybe it’s not convenient to jump and if, when convenience devolves you, like you said, so why would we bother?
Tom
00:40:45
Right.
Stu
00:40:52
Right, you know? That is awesome. I’m keen just to get a little bit of an insight into your day in terms of what does the guru of all of this actually do from the moment that you get out of bed to the moment that you prepare to go to sleep? In terms of movement, nutrition, and any non-negotiables that you have to ensure are part of your day. What does it look like?
Tom
00:41:21
I go and swim in the ocean for 32 minutes at 68 degrees. Just kidding. Just kidding. I’m just kidding. No, no, no, no, no, I don’t. I don’t, I don’t. All right.
I wake up. First of all, my phone’s in a Faraday bag.
Stu
00:41:36
Yes.
Tom
00:41:37
Any idea?
Stu
00:41:37
Yeah.
Tom
00:41:38
Okay. So they’ve been sent to me, I have a … I power it down, airplane mode it, Wi-Fi is off, phone sits in a Faraday bag. Alarm goes off. I turn on salt lamps on either side of my bed. Now a salt lamp, we know a Himalayan salt lamp goes pink or red. The reason I chose that is I was doing research on the best lighting for the brain and it’s sunrise, sunset, and flame.
Stu
00:42:00
Right.
Tom
00:42:01
Well sunrise, sunset, I have, I tried flame in my office. I had like 80 candles.
Stu
00:42:06
Oh wow.
Tom
00:42:07
It’s not safe.
Stu
00:42:08
No, no.
Tom
00:42:08
I was like, if there’s a castle [inaudible 00:42:12] you go back to castle days, right? Just flame everywhere. Okay. So I can’t flame, so I went with salt lamps. I stare at the salt lamp for a good, like couple minutes where that first light entering my eyes to my brain is the glow of what would be a sunset or a flame. I’m introduced with red, orange, pink glow. Okay? That’s my first.
Then I get up and I go and I make a very small amount of French pressed Turkish ground coffee. It’s like six ounces. Okay?
Stu
00:42:50
Yeah.
Tom
00:42:51
It’s just a scoop. Very small, because my body … I fast like four times a year. I dry fast. So no food, no water, and no water hits my body for 72 hours.
Stu
00:43:00
Wow.
Tom
00:43:01
After the last three, I came off not wanting coffee, so my body’s telling me it doesn’t want it. I’m like, “This is interesting. All right, I’m going to listen to you.”
I have this drink. I have about 24 ounces of water, a little bit of apple cider vinegar, a little dash of creatine, little. Lugol’s iodine, that 2.0 iodine, I go five drops of the Lugol’s iodine. Then a probiotic called Seed [inaudible 00:43:31] on her, [inaudible 00:43:32] lab website. But Seed, it’s a little green bottle.
Stu
00:43:35
Yeah.
Tom
00:43:36
Then I go on into my shower. I dry brush before I get in the shower. Dry brush, full body, starting at the feet. I get in the shower, take the shower, come out, the oil I put on my skin is either olive oil or coconut oil. That’s a food going through my skin right off the bat.
Then I get dressed … oh, oh, oh. After I brush my teeth, I oil pull. So I have a gallon of coconut oil-ghee convo. Ghee is the butter oil, right?
Stu
00:44:08
Yeah.
Tom
00:44:08
I’m a big fan of [inaudible 00:44:10] price and they’re all about like fatty fats around teeth for oral health and animal fat. I oil pull like crazy from the moment I’m in the shower, to getting dressed, to oiling up my skin, to going in the kitchen. I spend about 20 minutes. Then I’ll spit it out, and then I have a big scoop of manuka honey.
Stu
00:44:30
Okay.
Tom
00:44:32
Manuka honey. I pour my coffee. I add chaga, that brown mushroom.
Stu
00:44:36
Yup.
Tom
00:44:37
There’s this other stuff, like [Ayunanda’s 00:12:39], it’s like Sun Potion. I got it from the Thank You Body rally in Miami with Kelly Brogan, Dr. Kelly Brogan and Sayer Ji and Danielle Garcia, she’s [Joya 00:44:49] alchemist. There’s this little, we had this cacao, like really concentrated with turmeric and pepper and mushrooms. It was really, really flavorful and strong and it makes the coffee more bold without coffee.
Stu
00:45:03
Oh, okay. Yeah.
Tom
00:45:05
I can get you that exact name if you guys need it. But it’s Sun Potion was the company, but reach out to [inaudible 00:13:11]. She’s the king, my guru there. Then I add coconut oil, good grass-fed raw butter and a little bit of raw honey to that coffee, blend it up, and that’s my little six-ounce thing of coffee. I have two big scoops of sauerkraut, so that’s more probiotic, fermented food, with that honey. So now I’m kind of good. I’m feeling kind of good, I’m full, I’m ready to go, and I head to the beach. I’ll stay at the beach for about an hour. It’ll vary. Sometimes I feel like reading, sometimes I feel like meditating. Other times, I just stand and just stare at the ocean and just, that’s it. I just let my body go. Other times, I’ll go into the ocean. I don’t know, I feel called to stuff,Dashboard you know? But I sit, I’m by the ocean for the first 30 to an hour of my day.
Then I come back, go to the office, and I work with patients and I do stuff. Now I’m not on a diet. I’m on the diet of, “Eat when hungry, stop when full.” So if I’m hungry, I’m going to get some food. If I’m not, I’m not going to eat. And if I do eat, it’s going to be homemade. So that’s kind of where I go, but with my morning food being the way it is and my coffee kind of being loaded, I’m pretty good till dinner. So I kind of … it’s not intermittent fasting, it’s not, because I’m not fasting. Fasting is like nothing, right?
Stu
00:46:38
Yeah, yeah.
Tom
00:46:38
I’m just, if I want … like I’ll have these cravings where I want like plums or I want grapes or I want vegetables, so I want like eggs. I drink my eggs, I just digest them better, but I’ll blend them with banana and raw cacao and raw honey and water, some hemp protein and …
Stu
00:46:56
Delicious.
Tom
00:46:58
Yeah, it’s like a chocolate thing, right?
Stu
00:46:59
Yeah.
Tom
00:47:00
I’ll make sure that if I have a blended drink, I chew it to stimulate my jaw to tell my stomach that food’s coming just so I’m not [inaudible 00:47:07] by drinking it. That’s a convenience that can kind of devolve us.
Stu
00:47:11
Yeah, totally.
Tom
00:47:11
We work with a vitamix in our mouth called teeth, saliva, and jaw muscles, right?
Stu
00:47:15
Yeah.
Tom
00:47:17
We got to watch out for that. So then I’ll go to dinner and my dinner, dude, my dinner, I swear to God, I get high, I get drunk. I get, like, shroomed out on food because I literally will make just these flavorful bomb ass dinners from scratch. I love it. I love making it, I love cooking it, I love connecting with it. Anything from fried plantains that taste like tater tots, they’re fried in lard, a good farm lard that I get; to torn chicken, homemade chicken salad; to … last night was a big frigging vat of guac.
Stu
00:47:54
Oh yeah.
Tom
00:47:57
And a thing of rice with butter and black beans
Tom
00:48:00
… and black beans and garlic. I mean, dude. It was homemade. You know exactly what goes into it and you’re in control of the flavors. And then I have homemade kombucha to wash it down. And so, that’s kind of my shtick. And then I’m a big dessert guy. So, I was talking to, I don’t know if you guys remember Elle Macpherson.
Stu
00:48:23
Yeah.
Tom
00:48:23
I was chatting with her a little bit. She at night will have dark chocolate with some sleep stuff.
Stu
00:48:33
Yes.
Tom
00:48:33
Right? Like a melatonin kind of thing. And I’m like, dude. I’ve had many clients telling me like, hey, I crave chocolate at night but, I know that’s bad. And it’s like, no, it’s not. Actually your body is telling you something. Don’t give it Costco shit. Give it… What’s chocolate? Raw cocoa, butter, sugar-
Stu
00:48:51
That’s it.
Tom
00:48:51
Honey.
Stu
00:48:52
Yeah.
Tom
00:48:52
That’s it. Just make that. What do you want? Oh, I want a candy bar. Oh, me too. So, you whip up that chocolate. You toss some hazel nuts or walnuts or almonds or cashews in that guy. Put it in the fridge, then you whip up coconut oil, raw honey, vanilla stevia, a little bit of baking soda. Switch that up in whatever amounts you want. Put that in the freezer. There’s your caramel. You drizzle that over the nuts that are chocolate coated. Salt the whole shit.
Stu
00:49:22
Wow.
Tom
00:49:24
You’ve got a candy bar in a bowl. I’m not crapping you. And it’ll literally be like a snickers bar. But you made it from scratch. Now your body, what you’ll notice is, you don’t finish it.
Stu
00:49:34
Yeah.
Tom
00:49:34
Because your body goes, done. Because it had food instead of a snickers which isn’t really food. It doesn’t know. And you could eat like three snickers because the brain’s still waiting for food. The way to shut it down. So, that’s my goal, man. I’m not a big… Everyone’s like, wait. I love how you eat because it’s not strict. I’m in love with it. Because I feel like our emotions to what we eat are so much stronger than the ingredients themselves. And I’ve said, a happy doughnut is healthier than a sad salad. And people are like, well, then I’d eat donuts all the time. And I’m like, you wouldn’t know. Because try… literally try it. Give yourself donuts all the time. You’ll feel like shit. And you won’t like that. If you’re taking an honest inventory. Are donuts bad? No. It’s your emotions around them. If you’re going to choose something, make it. If you don’t, own it. Own that you are celebrating the fact that you love taste and life and choice.
And here we go, man. And I just… I had to take pictures and show what I eat. Because everyone was like, I thought you’d be vegan or I thought you’d be this or I thought you’d be paler, I thought… I’m like, I’m not anything. I’m all of it. Some nights I am totally vegan, because I crave only a salad or only avocado. I don’t know what I want. And honestly, I’m not to question it. My brain is the guru. My innate is the guru. So, that’s my day. And then just repeat that.
Stu
00:51:01
That’s awesome.
Tom
00:51:03
That’s kind of hit man. Simple pleasures in life are really what I relish in. And I’ve streamlined everything to keep it very simple so that my body has enough to express and feel those things, instead of kind of steamrolling the experiences of life.
Stu
00:51:18
Fantastic. It sounds like you are hyper in tune with your body and your body tells you what it needs and you prepare it and you enjoy the process and the ceremony of doing this kind of connecting with the things that we used to do, that we’ve kind of lost our way on, that we very much need to connect with to be able to get back up humanity. Which is awesome. Fantastic. Well, so many little snippets there of gold that we can pull out and share with our audience. Fantastic. We are coming up on time. So, I really just wanted just to dive in and say, well, what’s next? You are so busy. At least from a social media standpoint, it appears that you are so busy. And you’re clearly all over all of your strategies to be able to manage that. But, what have you got in the pipeline for this year and next year?
Tom
00:52:07
So, as I said this year is the greatest year of my life. I’ve leveled up in so many ways, I’ve connected with people I never would have, I have more friends. And I’m very specific with who I hang out with. I alienate myself because I believe so much in what we talked about. Right? And it doesn’t leave… There’s not a lot of majority around that. Or than you think, you got to dig and find them. So, we’ve connected… What we’ve got now is my life with what’s going on is pretty freaking awesome. If I stepped back, I’d look at what’s going on and be like, hell yeah, man, this is awesome. My office is busy. My days cleaned up. My life is better. I’m like, wait, I can’t sit with that. I can’t benefit individually and selfishly. I have to use the fact that I’m adapting to this pretty easily to help other people.
I have to… I purpose has been so magnified as to what I’m here for and why I was born to be here right now. And this is… So, now this is what I’m doing. I’ve collaborated with a big bunch of group of people, [Alec 00:53:16] and [Allie 00:05:21], [Zack 00:05:21], [Dr Joey 00:05:21], [Dr Sarah Carnes 00:00:53:21], [Dr Ben Tabber 00:53:21], [Dr Seth 00:05:21]. we are putting together a group and we’re going to formulate some things. We’ve got a website coming up. It’s going to have a podcast. We’re going to… It’s a coalition of sorts. And we’re doing it to unite all of it together, worldwide. There’s all these organizations, all kind of fighting some fights. We’re going to… We want to be the organization that brings it all together. It doesn’t matter what you believe or what side or who you vote for what race you are, how old you are, where you live.
Doesn’t matter. You’re a human being who deserves these unalienable rights, bodily sovereignty. And we’re here to fight for you. And we’ve got doctors, lawyers, scientists, here we go. So, that’s coming up. Stay tuned for that. I’m looking to… I want to help more people virtually almost like this, but I want to come up with a program online. And so, I’m doing that. I really like working with people. I like touching them and connecting with them truthfully, in person. I think that’s so valuable to connect that way. But, I want to intensify and magnify what I’m able to do into some sort of where people can go and grasp, because I’m learning now that even just the little things, like I said, with those eight, people are able to change their lives to an extent that they don’t have to see me or have to come to me.
And so, that’s what I’m all about. I don’t want to see you. I’d like to but, I don’t want to have to. Let’s get together, not to talk shop. Let’s get together to talk about space and the ocean, and your dreams, and your fears and the… Let’s talk that stuff. I don’t need to talk, what exercise to… Let’s… You got that. You already know how to do that. Let’s get together and talk some really crazy shit. So, that’s what I’m doing now. And you said it dude. You put it perfectly. You obviously take care of yourself enough to be able to handle this. And I don’t think enough people do that. Where they acknowledge that they’ve got all these projects coming in or stimuli coming in or a new relationship or kids or a new school or a new job.
But, you also, for everything that comes in, you have to make room for that, to be able to process that. And you put it right there. People don’t do that. They always go more, more, more, more, more. Their buckets spilled over so much. And they wonder why they’re unhappy in pain and miserable, whatever they’ve got. Right? So, I make sure to empty my bucket to the point that I’m almost selfish about it. TJ, what are you doing tonight? Going to watch a sunset, walk the beach. And they’re like, you don’t understand. I had a hundred deep conversations during the week. I got to dump it all out. So, come Monday, I’m ready to go man.
Or I’ve got a big podcast with Reiner Fuellmich who’s a lawyer, who’s trying against crimes against humanity. The biggest lawsuit in the history of the world. I have to get my freaking brain ready. So, I can’t eat a shitty meal. Do you know what I mean shitty? It’s not a night to do that. I’ll have pizza on Saturday, because that’s when I can kind of… Okay, I’ve emptied enough. Let’s go. But, I make sure that I have room for all I can process. Because what’s the point of trying to help people if I’m sick and diseased in the process while-
Stu
00:56:26
Exactly right. Exactly right. Yeah. It wouldn’t work.
Tom
00:56:29
I can’t stand that.
Stu
00:56:31
No. I get it. And I totally… For me, everything, like quality sleep, and it’s just making sure that I get that because then everything just works. Yeah. Outside of that, it’d be so easy to wreck my sleep these days. But no, that is-
Tom
00:56:48
You’re a good example though, for your daughter. See what I mean? You saying that. I immediately said, I’m like, your daughters are looking at an example of somebody who values sleep. That’s so critical that they’re in a household where that is going to be their norm. Right? You are a spitting example of that and I almost get goosebumps.
Stu
00:57:06
Yeah. I just… I want my daughters to be independent and I want them to feel comfortable in the fact that they can look after themselves. And so, we’ve always fostered that from an early age. I mean, I had my 12 year old daughter yesterday prepare the family meal, which was pork belly, roast potatoes and all of that stuff. She’s 12. And when she does it all. Cuts the meat, seasons, all these stuff. But, I want to know that if I’m not here, they can do this. And they don’t have to default to McDonald’s or crappy food.
Tom
00:57:37
I love it man.
Stu
00:57:37 Just got to, yeah… Got to make them more resilient. I have thoroughly enjoyed this chat. This has been the best chat I’ve had in a long time. Really, really enjoyed it. So, for all of our listeners that want to get more of this, of you dive into the book, follow you on your social channels. Where would be the best place for me to send them?
Tom
00:57:59
So, the website is drtommyjohn.com. D-R-T-O-M-M-Y-J-O-H-N.COM. And from there you can find all my social media, the book, this new project we got going on. We’re all going to have links to our websites and see other things that we’re doing there. And the thing with my social media, it’s people are blown away that they’ll reach out to me in a DM. And don’t be a dick, and don’t be mean but, if you reach out to me, I get back to you. And they’re like, Oh my God. I never you… Wait. Why? Why is the DM set up? It’s for communication. You know what I mean? Don’t hate because I’ll delete that and I won’t think twice of you. But, if you have questions or concerns or you’re starting to experiment with some of these stuff, or you get the book or you have a recipe or you have a thought or a feeling, we got to connect now more than ever.
And so, that’s our avenue. We are our news, we our, our own platforms. So, we have to stay connected to know that one, it is the individual work we’re going to do moving forward, that’s going to thwart what’s coming down the line here. But, it’s the individual work as a group to know that we’re not alone. There’s millions of us out there. And we are all greater than the dark. We connect and we’re all greater than the dark. So, that’s… Reach out to me if you’ve got concerns or questions or just want to jam. I will respond. You will see me respond. Because I didn’t realize it was such a freak thing. But everyone’s just like, Oh my God, I never thought… I’m like, what?
Stu
00:59:27
Yeah. What did you think?
Tom
00:59:31
You’re the person in the Ukraine or in the UK or in Australia or… But, I love my brothers and sisters in Australia because I was on chef Pete Evans podcast. Connecting to Pete and we… I think we’re both shirtless in it. And it was just… What you guys are out there, I have a lot of connection out there. And there’s a lot of people reaching out. And they’re just like, thank you so much. It’s just, I know what you guys are going through. I’m aware of what you guys are going through. And I… My heart’s out for you. And you are part of the reason I’m fighting so strongly. Because it’s a global level.
So, for sure. Love you guys. Love everything that’s going on with how you’re uniting together. But definitely, stay connected. Reach out to me. Anything I can do to help, I’m going to do it.
Stu
01:00:15
Fantastic. All of the links that we’ve spoken about, we’ll put in the show notes as well, but…
Tom
01:00:20
Perfect.
Stu
01:00:21
Dr. Tommy John, it’s been an absolute pleasure. Cannot wait to share this with our audience and look forward to connecting with you at some stage soon.
Tom
01:00:28
This was fun, man. I’m honored and I’m grateful. Thank you so much.
Stu
01:00:31
Thanks buddy.
