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Stu: This week we welcome Jordanna Levin to the show. She is an author, podcaster, manifestor, lunar lover and (closet) stand-up comic, who has a knack for taking mind-exploding spiritual concepts and making them digestible, relatable and applicable to everyone.
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Questions we ask in this episode:
- Is it enough to simply want something to happen?
- What everyday thoughts/traits/practices could potentially derail our goals?
- What 3 tips could you offer those wanting to make changes in their lives?
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Stu
00:03 Hey, this is Stu from 180 Nutrition, and welcome to another episode of The Health Sessions. It’s here that we connect with the world’s best experts in health, wellness, and human performance in an attempt to cut through the confusion around what it actually takes to achieve a long-lasting health. Now, I’m sure that’s something that we all strive to have. I certainly do.
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00:44 This week, I’m excited to welcome Jordanna Levin. Jordanna is a journalist, author, podcaster, and manifestor, who has a knack for taking mind-exploding, spiritual concepts and making them digestible, relatable and applicable to everyone.
00:59 In this episode, we talk about her new book called Make It Happen, which explains how we can use the practice of manifestation to achieve the life of our dreams. Over to Jordanna.
01:09 Hey, guys, this is Stu from 180 Nutrition, and I am delighted to welcome Jordanna Levin to the podcast. Jordanna, how are you?
Jordanna
01:20 I’m well, Stuart. Thank you for having me.
Stu
01:24 Well, thank you so much. We’re neighbors, as well, so we’ll talk about that-
Jordanna
01:26 I know.
Stu
01:29 A little bit later, but, first up, for everybody out there that may not be familiar with you, I just wondered if you could just tell us a little bit about yourself, please.
Jordanna
01:38 It’s always hard when I get this question because I don’t really know where to start, but I’ll start from the very beginning. I’m a journalist. My training is journalism. I spent the first half of my career working in magazines and specifically in food publishing, which I don’t really know how I ended up there. It was one of those chance encounters, and it started to steer the direction of my life from there. I worked in food publishing for almost 10 years, working in magazines and cookbooks, and got myself up to the top ranks, dream job, and thought, “Oh, this is not as dreamy as I had envisioned it,” so I left publishing, and I started working for myself in lots of different facets, and it went through lots of reinventions.
02:28 I went from a health coach. I did a lot of recipe development, writing recipes for cookbooks, that moved into the celebrity cookbook world where I’d write recipes, ghostwrite recipes for celebrities, and then I exhausted that side of my life, and I pivoted once more, and I stepped away from that a little bit and started doing my yoga teacher training, getting into the more spiritual side of things, which had always been the way I was raised by my parents, but really exploring it in terms of my work and the service that I do in the world. As that started to grow, I started running these events in Sydney called Lunar Nights, which became these sellout monthly events that we ran every new moon, and they were very much centered around intention setting and manifestation, and they ran for about three years, and I think the reason that they did so well was because I had a very practical and relatable approach, and it was something that was missing from many of the spiritual teachings and the spiritual events that were happening in and around Sydney.
03:47 Once I saw the attraction of something like that, I thought, “Well, hang on. I’ve got this skillset of 10 years in the media. What can I do with this? How can I combine the two?” I put together a book proposal, and I sent it off last year, and that all started to come into fruition. I wrote the book in eight weeks-
Stu
04:10 Wow.
Jordanna
04:10 And it was published … .Yeah, I know. It was published this year, and so I guess now I call myself an author, but it’s been this real amalgamation over the years of all my different skills.
Stu
04:24 Fantastic. Wow. What a journey, and it sounds like you-
Jordanna
04:26 I know.
Stu
04:27 It sounds like you’ve dialed into what you love, which is so, well, such a fantastic place to be.
Jordanna
04:35 It really is, yeah.
Stu
04:37 Wow. I super keen to talk about your book, and we’re going to get into that a little bit later on. It’s centered around manifestation, as well. That manifestation is a … It’s a loaded word. I can see that there’s so much energy and power around that word, but on the flip side, the skeptics will say, “Well, it’s just woo woo. There’s no such thing. It’s just coincidence.” I’m keen to hear your description of the word manifestation. What does it actually mean to you? Then, on the flip side, how would you describe that to the skeptics in the world?
Jordanna
05:18 Look, I think I try and make it as simple as possible because the majority of people that I’m speaking to are skeptics. I think that manifestation really is about taking control and taking ownership of a future that you desire because I think that a lot of people have these hopes and these dreams for their own future, but they don’t think that they actually play a role in that, and it’s about going, “If this is what I want to create in my life, I actually have to take action and have the power to make it happen.”
Stu
05:55 Manifestation then is not fueled if there’s no action, if we don’t take any action, so it’s not simply enough to want something to happen. Is that right?
Jordanna
06:08 Absolutely not, and I think this is where the teachings that I’ve brought into the world are a little bit different because, for so long, all of the texts around manifestation were in the spiritual realm, and they were very much about surrender and taking a backseat and desiring something and having positive thoughts around i and that being enough, and while all of that are definitely elements behind manifestation, I truly believe through lots of experience and experimenting with it, unless you, yourself, take action, then that manifestation will evade you. It’s not something that can be applied to everything that you want if you’re not willing to step up and be a part of that.
Stu
06:50 Got it. Can we derail our goals with perhaps pre-programmed thoughts, traits, actions, or practices that have been implanted from an early age?
Jordanna
07:08 Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Stu
07:09 Oftentimes, you feel … Some people say, “Oh, I’m just not lucky. I’m so unlucky,” and other people just seem to have the luck. Do you think that that stems from an early age?
Jordanna
07:22 I think it can stem from an early age. I think the message that I really try and get across to people is that we are all manifesting already. We do it every second of every day. For many of us and for me for a very long time, those manifestations would usually come out in ways that I wouldn’t desire, and the fuel behind that was worrying about things, thinking I wasn’t worthy of things, injecting fear and dread into future circumstances that hadn’t eventuated yet, and just having a negative spin on how something would play out, either judging on recent experience with it or a story that you’ve been told, or some sort of limiting belief that you had around that, and what I figured out as I’ve started to do more and more work with this is that there is a direct correlation between your level of self-worth and your ability to manifest.
08:21 Those people who say, “I’m unlucky. Nothing ever works out for me,” there is a level of them not feeling worthy or deserving of that thing. The people who are saying, “Oh, everything always happens in my favor. Of course, I’m worthy of that. Oh, that will absolutely happen for me. I’ve got faith. I believe,” it usually does, and it’s because they believe that it’s possible and that they’re worthy of that manifestation.
Stu
08:47 Wow. Perhaps work to be done then before we even start the process of manifesting, if we’re not in the right spot, would that be true?
Jordanna
08:59 Yeah. I would have a look at the limiting beliefs or the stories that you tell yourself around that thing that you’re trying to create, and whether they are a direct limitation and block for the manifestation of that thing, and I think that would find that they 100% every time are. If we can work on how to make ourselves feel worthy of that thing and how we can make ourselves feel deserving of it, then we’re already one step closer to taking action to make it happen because if you don’t feel worthy of it, the likelihood of you taking action towards it is quite slim.
Stu
09:39 I get it. The book, Make It Happen, I’m guessing it’s a blueprint, it’s a roadmap to be able to manifest to the best of your ability to be able to, I guess, have the best chance of realizing your dreams and goals, desires, all of that journey. In the book, you talk about an equation, I guess a formula or a process for manifestation. Tell us about that. What’s involved?
Jordanna
10:18 It’s quite hilarious that it’s an equation because the thought of math makes my chest feel really restricted, but, yes, it is an equation, and it’s an equation that I came up with while I was running those new moon nights in Sydney. This formula started to evolve when I could see what was working for me and what was working for the people that were coming to the events, and I call it the Manifestation Equation, and it goes like this. Thoughts plus feelings plus action plus faith equals successful manifestation, and the idea behind the equation is that all four parts of the sum need to work in unison in order for us to guarantee a successful manifestation. If we’re just thinking the good thoughts and feeling the good feels and not taking action and not believing that we’re worthy or that it’s possible, then it’s unlikely that it will manifest, or if we’re taking action, but our thoughts aren’t aligned with it, or we don’t actually feel like it’s possible for us, then it’s unlikely that it’s going to happen. It’s using all four parts of that together. That means that we can apply that equation to all areas of our life.
11:28 The way that I’ve set it up in the book is the first half of the book is all about the theory. We unpack each part of that equation. The second half of the book is applying the equation to all different areas of your life, finances, love, career, opportunity, self-worth.
Stu
11:48 Let’s talk about then how we might apply that. Let’s just say our listeners are in a position where they’ve had enough with a job, it’s not what they wanted to do, it’s the daily grind, it’s just not putting them in a happy place. To apply the equation to somebody in that situation, who says, “I just got to get out of here. I’ve got to get a job,” talk us through how those elements of the equation then might be put into everyday practices.
Jordanna
12:21 Well, the first thing I’d ask someone to look at is how their own vibration in their job is being affected because if you are continually staying in an environment like that, whether it’s because you’re bored with the work that you do or you don’t enjoy the work that you do or there’s toxicity in the workplace, that’s going to be affecting your personal vibration and the way that you show up in the world around your career. All of a sudden, the vibrations that you put out into the world and the way the universe sees you and the way that you see your career is very much in this wasted energy, toxic space. Having a look at that and deciding, “I don’t want to feel like this anymore. I don’t want to feel like this anymore. I don’t want to be in this space anymore.”
13:11 The first thing I would ask them to do is get super clear on what kind of job they would rather be in, where they would rather be, and they can think big. It’s like, “Do I know exactly what the role is, or do I just know how I want to feel and what I want it to look like when I’m there,” so getting super clear on that, and aligning their thoughts so that they believe that that is actually possible for them, so they’re not having thoughts of, “I’m going to be stuck here in this job forever. I’m not going to be able to get out of here. I’m not worthy of this kind of role.” Where are their limiting beliefs in terms of progressing to that next step in their career?
13:53 Then, I’d ask them to really tap into how they’re feeling about it. What kind of feelings do they want to have in this new role or in this new job so that they can create a vibration around where they’re headed, the manifestation? I would say, “How is it that you want to feel in this new role,” and someone might say, “I want to feel successful. I want to feel excited. I want to feel abundant. I want to feel free.” Maybe there’s a sense of freedom that comes with this new role. I’d ask them to be now, in this present moment, even though they’re in this role that they’re stuck in and that they don’t enjoy, to start to tap into those feelings because that’s what creates a vibration and a frequency around it, and in the book, we explore all the universal laws that relate to this. The wonderful feelings is the law of vibration.
14:53 Then, we move to action, and that, I think is the easiest step, but a lot of people find it the hardest, but action is like, “Well, what the hell are
15:00 … you’re going to do about going out and getting a new job. So updating your LinkedIn profile, searching for jobs on SEEK, networking with people, asking questions, putting yourself out there, sending your resume out to companies that aren’t advertising for jobs, but are companies you want to work at. Yeah? Taking action. Then the last bit is faith, and it’s having a level of faith that what is meant for you will come to you and that you are worthy and deserving of it. So there’s two facets to faith.
15:32 It’s like looking at what it is that you want and knowing that if that manifestation doesn’t manifest, it’s not because you weren’t worthy of it. Maybe it’s because something better is on the way. If it’s not this, it’s something better, and whatever evolves, whatever comes out of it, is in your highest interest. I think for many of us, the thought patterns around faith that we slip into is expecting the worst so that we don’t get disappointed if it doesn’t arrive. Well, maybe if I don’t set my expectations too high, then I won’t be disappointed if I don’t get that job. Where I’m saying set your expectations high, if it doesn’t happen, knowing that it’s because something better or something different that’s in your highest interest is on its way.
Stu
16:20 Yeah. Wow, that makes perfect sense.
Jordanna
16:25 Oh good.
Stu
16:25 No, totally, and I kind of use the … there’s a phrase that I use, called, “If it is to be, it’s up to me,” or something along those lines, which essentially is talking about, well it is down to me and I need to do something to be able to make things happen. Like you said, if you’re doing all of these proactive tasks like your CV and LinkedIn and networking and job hunting, then you’re reaching out. If you don’t reach out, it may not happen.
16:59 I was intrigued as well about that, couple of phrases that you picked up on. One was the universe and one was energy, two terms which could be deemed as woo-woo. We’ve had a lot of guests on this show that have really delved into the science behind it as well. People like Joe Dispenza, talking about energy and how it’s scientific and it happens and there’s a whole heap of stuff that we can do with our thoughts and the energy that we produce that kind of goes beyond comprehension in some way, shape, or form. So people often say the universe is aligned or the universe made this happen. What are your thoughts on that?
Jordanna
17:50 Well, yeah, I mean I 100% concur. It’s true. I think that it … look, it was the way that I was raised. We weren’t a religious family and the terms that were thrown around at home were the universe rather than God. But I guess in any respect, it’s the idea, whether you believe in God or Allah or Buddha, whoever it is, that you believe that there is a power or an energy greater than you that is working in your favor. It sort of takes the pressure off a little bit. It’s like everything that happens in my world, I have the ability to affect with my energy, but it’s also working with me and there’s something greater than me. So at some point I need to be able to just sit back and surrender a little bit to the bigger plan.
18:50 I think there’s so many different ways that we can work with energy, and I think that the work that Joe Dispenza does is absolutely amazing. Like I just drink it in. But from a really simple standpoint, if we’re taking science out of it, I think energy is just a really beautiful way for us to bring self-awareness to what strengthens our energy, what makes us feel more like us, what makes us feel more authentic, and what weakens our energy, like what pulls us out of alignment? What are the things in our life that make us feel drained, that make us feel less like ourselves? [crosstalk 00:19:28] we have to continually strive to be something that we’re not. Can we start to replace those things with the things that light us up, that make us feel in flow, that pull us into alignment?
Stu
19:41 Got it. Okay. What might some of those things be from your perspective? What lights you up? And then on the flip side, what drains you from energy?
Jordanna
19:54 I like to put it in really simple terms when I’m trying to explain this to people. When I’m in an environment, whether it’s the experience or the people that I’m surrounded with, really affects how I feel within myself. So when I feel really intelligent, I feel witty and funny, I feel like words flow out of my mouth really easily, I can feel it like in my posture, you know, my shoulders are relaxed. I feel like however I express myself is me expressing myself at my best. That’s when I know that my energy is strong.
20:39 When I stumble on my words, when I’m not saying anything particularly funny, when my shoulders are kind of slumped and I’m finding it really uncomfortable and I can’t not fidget, that’s when I know that I’m not in an environment that’s strengthening my energy. So the things that will strengthen it for me are things like … what lights me up? Like really intelligent conversations. Exciting conversations, things I don’t know about. When someone’s teaching me something, that lights me up.
21:12 Being out in nature, like I cannot get enough of the outdoors. I just love it, and I can feel my energy change as soon as I step outside or whenever I put my bare feet on the earth or on the sand or in the sea. Really beautiful, like alive foods, and they don’t always have to be the healthiest of foods, but, you know, foods that I really enjoy eating, and also the act of like eating with other people. That’s something that really lights me up, and being around people, like I said before, that make me laugh and make me feel inspired.
21:48 The things that drag me out of alignment and make me feel like they’re draining my energy is small talk. I hate small talk, can’t handle it. Things like caffeine, like coffee, like I’ve really had to dial back on that sort of stuff lately. Being stuck in an airplane or an air-conditioned room. That’s what drags me out of alignment and out of energy. And then being around toxicity, like being around toxic people. I’ve just become really aware over the years of not … you know, we can’t avoid people all of the time that we don’t want to be around, but making sure that I’m not putting energy into the people that aren’t giving energy back to me.
Stu
22:33 Got it. Wow. Yeah, no, absolutely. I can relate to that for sure. It’s funny, movement and the environment and nature, it can be so energizing and recharging and it certainly works for me. Like if I’m feeling flat, walk around the block, great. That’s when all the ideas happen. It’s very rare, I think, that people will have any defining memories or moments in their minds that aren’t attached, in some way, shape, or form, to the beach, the mountains, the forest. It’s probably not going to be that great time in the office working on that report that day. So, yeah, no, I do completely agree.
23:19 Let’s talk a little bit more about the book then. So the book’s called Make It Happen. Eight weeks. You wrote-
Jordanna
23:26 I know-
Stu
23:26 … that in eight weeks. Tell us about that.
Jordanna
23:26 … so ridiculous.
Stu
23:29 Like how did that work and how was sleep when you were writing the book as well?
Jordanna
23:33 You know what, I don’t remember the time that well. I think what … so what happened was I had written a proposal. It was a very detailed proposal. I knew exactly how I wanted the book to go. I’d written the first, maybe, three chapters, and the publisher loved it and said, “We definitely want to publish it. This topic is on trend now. We have a space in the publishing schedule. The release date is May, which means we’re going to need it by October,” or, yeah, that was August at this point. “Can you write it in eight weeks?” And I thought, well, I’ve just been offered a publishing deal, that doesn’t happen all the time. I’d been trying to manifest a publishing deal and I thought, I’m just going to do it. I’m just going to make it happen.
24:20 So I did, and to be honest with you, I don’t really know how I did it because I was writing every day. I had to take some time off work to do it. I took myself to Bali for a couple of weeks and got a good chunk out there. But it was just sitting down every day knowing what the message was and just making sure that whatever I was doing in those eight weeks were keeping me in alignment, keeping my energy levels high. And, yeah, it just came out. I feel like if I’d been given longer I probably would’ve left it to the last eight weeks anyway, so.
Stu: 25:02 Yeah, oftentimes deadlines are great because they force an action. We’re certainly creatures of habit and we can pontificate and just, I guess … so easily distracted in this digital world as well. So it must be kind of nice to switch off distractions and have something to do.
25:28 Absolutely. I’m the queen of procrastination. If there’s a distraction around, I will find it.
Stu
25:35 Yeah, no I get that, for sure. So what can we expect from the book then? If we were to … so all of our listeners, they’re intrigued about manifestation. They’ve got desires and goals and wants and dreams, but they don’t know how to throw that all together. Tell us about the book then.
Jordanna
25:55 Yeah. The book for me needed to be something that the mainstream audience could access and instantly be able to relate to it and apply it. Because I think that when we read personal development books, and we’re all guilty of this, we read the book and we get to the end of it and we go, great book, and we put it back on the shelf, and we haven’t embodied any of it. We don’t put any of it into practice. We go yeah, we understand it, but then we don’t apply it.
26:27 I really didn’t want Make It Happen to be that kind of book because I know that the equation works and I wanted people to get excited about it and I wanted them to be able to understand it, but also be able to embody it. So the way that I’ve set the book up is it’s really relatable in that there’s a lot of personal story in it, but it’s very funny, it’s a very easy read. The feedback that we’ve been getting is, you know, “I read it in a day, I couldn’t put it down,” you know, every chapter kind of flows on to the next because it’s so easy for people to apply it almost instantly.
27:12 So yeah, it’s the kind of read that if you’ve tried manifestation before and it hasn’t worked out for you, I urge you to give this a go. If you’ve never heard of it before, it explains it really well, so you’ll be able to play around with it too. If you’re well-versed in manifestation, I think it offers you a new perspective on it. I think it’s a book for everybody.
Stu
27:34 Great. Fantastic. And the equation, the manifestation equation, can we apply this to all areas of our lives?
Jordanna
27:43 Absolutely. I don’t even use the equation just for manifestation anymore. I use it for everything. I use it for decision making, I use it for everyday work, the way that I relate with people in my friendships and my relationships. Yeah, I use it for everything. It’s a way to build your self-worth levels and the belief that you have in what is possible for you. Whether that’s something you’re trying to manifest or just how you’re showing up in your life.
Stu
28:12 If we were in a conversation and I said, look, I’ve read the book, I understand all of this, but I just need, you know, what are the juicy bits? Which are the bits that are really punchy? The take-home. So if you could offer, say, three tips to me wanting to make change in my life, would there be any kind of call-outs, the take-homes, that you put above the others?
Jordanna
28:43 Absolutely. The first thing would be to really work out who you are and what your authentic vibration is. Like I said before, it’s when you feel most like yourself, and then working out what strengthens that and what pulls you out of it. Because if you can’t stand in the truth of who you are in every moment, you’re going to find it really difficult to be able to create more things in your life that are in alignment with that. So that’s the first thing I would say.
29:12 Second thing I would say is if there are things in your life that aren’t working out and aren’t manifesting, have a really good look at what your stories and what your limiting beliefs are around that, because they’re definitely the things that are blocking it. If you find it really hard to save money, if you find it really hard to get on top of your finances, I’d have a really good look at what your money story is that you tell yourself over and over again. “I can’t afford that. I can never save money. I’ll never buy a house. I’m just not good with money. I don’t know how to use money. I don’t understand money.” You know, whatever it is that you say, I’d have a look at that and have a think about how you can rewrite that story, because the stories that you tell yourself and the limiting beliefs that you have are purely just thoughts that you’ve told yourself over and
30:00 … Over and over again. So now it’s time to start reframing them. So it’s the second thing. What is the third thing? The third thing is to really have a look at your self worth. I said it before, but your ability to manifest in your level of self worth are directly correlated. So the areas of your life where you don’t feel worthy, you’re going to find it really tricky, and the areas of your life where you do feel worthy and deserving, you’ll find it a lot easier. So it’s working out those areas that aren’t manifesting how you feel from a sense of worthiness about that area.
Stu
30:33 Yeah. Right.
Jordanna
30:34 Yeah.
Stu
30:35 That makes perfect sense. I heard a phrase, I think it might have been on your website. When we’re not in faith, we’re in fear. And I just wondered if you could explain that please.
Jordanna
30:50 Yeah. It’s something I come back to a lot in each and every moment. I can be quite, although I’m a lot better these days, but I can be quite an anxious person. And anxiety for me really is fear of an unknown future. So fear of something that hasn’t happened yet, either because it’s in the shadows or it’s just too far in the future to know what the outcome’s going to be. And in those moments where I’m dropping into fear instead of you know … Sorry, a lot of people say that the opposite to fear is love. And I think that there is definitely truth in that, but I actually think the opposite of fear is faith, because if we can have faith that things are going to work out, if we can have faith that we’re being looked after, and we can have faith that staying in the present moment is a much healthier space than hanging out in fear of the future or fear of the unknown, then we actually have the ability to squash that fear completely.
31:57 Because while fear is healthy for us in the situations where we need it, like when we’re caught out in the jungle and there’s a circle of tigers around us, then yeah, absolutely have fear. But if there’s nothing absolutely life threatening in that moment, can we have faith that right now, in this moment we are safe and we are being looked after? And that for me has helped so much with, not only with my anxiety, but also with my manifestations, because if something’s not happening for me and I have all of this fear around it, what’s happening is we’re creating a vibration of fear. So this frequency of the thing that we’re trying to manifest is vibrating in fear. So if we can have faith and just believe that it’s possible and believe that, like I keep saying, we are worthy and deserving of it, then the likelihood of that manifestation happening is much higher.
Stu
32:56 Mm-hmm (affirmative). Yeah. Fantastic. So I’m just thinking about fear as well, and our mindset dictates the way that we feel and also dictates the biology of our body in terms of all of the hormones that can be released by our thoughts. Is there anything that you do perhaps each and every day to help you embrace the moment, to help you be in the right head space? In terms of maybe breathing practices, movement, things like yoga, getting outside the right diet. Because I would imagine if I got up in the morning and had bowl of cocoa pops and a can of Red Bull, I probably wouldn’t be in the right mindset to want to then start to gently manifest these wonderful goals. I have to be so charged, and wired and tired that it wouldn’t work for me.
Jordanna
34:02 No, I agree. I think it, again, it comes back to wasted energy. Like that for me is wasted energy and really pulls me out of alignment with me activating my best self. But in terms of things that I do daily, I used to be one of those people, especially when I was working in health media where I’d have a very strict regime of what I did every day. And I have to say I don’t have that anymore, but in a really fluid way, I make sure there’s always some kind of movement in the day. So I’m living up in Byron Bay, so I try and do the lighthouse every day if I can. I’ll go to a yoga class, I teach yoga up here, so if I’m not teaching, then I’ll practice it. And I love a good Yin class, like really being able to drop and surrender. And there’s no movement in that, but it’s really allowing you to tune back into your state of surrender and also pacifying your energy.
35:03 Because, as great as it is to raise our energy and we all try and be like on top of our energy levels, it’s also really important that we’re dropping into our parasympathetic nervous system as well and really calming ourselves down, you know? So I make sure I try and get a lot of that into my day. I really love to do infrared saunas. I try and do them twice a week. That really feels good for my energy levels as well, and just gives me a chance to just sit and do nothing, and breathe, and kind of just sweat out all the toxins. And Yeah, lastly, just watching what I eat, and not in a really regimented way, but I eat lots of fresh fruit and vegetables, I’ve cut down on my caffeine intake a lot, just for me. I think coffee is great, I’m coffee’s biggest fan, but my adrenals don’t love coffee. And yeah, just kind of really tapping into no matter what I’m doing, whether it’s exercise, or whether it’s meditating, or whether it’s eating, that it’s enhancing my energy, not wasting it.
Stu
36:14 Now, if I didn’t know anything about Byron Bay I would … Well, let me rephrase this. So you’re into like the environment, and movement, and manifestation, and you love obviously, you clearly love nature and good food, sunlight, and coming from the city as well, I like to find an environment that embraces all of these things. And for all of our listeners that don’t know where Byron Bay is, so it’s on the east coast of Australia. But it’s this, it’s its own little kind of epicenter of energy. The strangest place with such an amazing kind of feel good. I can’t explain what it is, but it sounds like that is exactly where you needed to be. So my question is, why did you move to Byron Bay and was it something that you manifested to make happen?
Jordanna
37:21 Absolutely. I grew up here in Bondi, in Sydney. And I had lived in my apartment there for the last 13 years. And I tried to move up to Byron twice, yeah, twice before I got up here this time. So the first time was when I was 19. It was before I just moved into my Bondi apartment. I came up here, I tried to write a novel, I lasted about a month. I couldn’t get any work and it’s almost like Byron just like energetically pushed me out. It was like, no, we’re not ready for you. Get out, go back to Sydney. So went back to Sydney, I attempted again when I was 28 and I was here for about a year, and it was really great. I just stepped out of publishing, it was awesome. And then this dream job came up in Sydney and once again, energetically rejected me, pushed me back to Sydney.
38:20 Now, last year I’d just written the book and I just, you know, I’d been talking about being in alignment and listening to your energy and Sydney itself, it’s a beautiful city. It’s one of my favorite cities in the world, but it was starting to drain me. I felt, the energy felt very frenetic, it just didn’t feel aligned with me anymore. And I didn’t know where I wanted home to be. I didn’t know. And I’d just kept having faith and I was like, it’s going to work itself out, but I need to get out of here.
38:52 So I moved everything into a storage container, made the decision, it was in a storage container and in two weeks time, and I just put what I had around me in the car and started traveling up the east coast of Australia, and I’ve got friends in Byron because I’ve been here that many times. And also, so many people from Sydney have moved up here and they all said, “Look, just try it one more time. You don’t have to stay forever, just see how it goes.” And I did, and the minute I arrived, everything just started to settle and everything was in flow. I found the most beautiful place to live in. I found beautiful connections, work started to flood in. Like it was all just exactly how it was meant to be. So this time I really feel like it’s really embraced me, for now.
Stu
39:44 Yeah, for now.
Jordanna
39:45 Who knows how long it’s going to take me.
Stu
39:47 Well, absolutely and it is, it really is so evident that when things are meant to be, then you mentioned that state of flow, it just happens, there’s no resistance. And oftentimes that can happen in so many different areas of your life and you just think, oh wow, this is so easy. But then on the flip side, if you’re really battling, and battling, and battling, then perhaps it’s time to step back and think, well, is this right for me, at this moment in time? So yeah, it’s intriguing. But yeah, wonderful part of the country. The weirdest energy for me. I just think there’s a feel good energy around Byron Bay. And I’ve spoken to like so many different people that have been here all their lives and they liken it to there’s lots of rose courts in the land, which gives off an amazing energy. Other conversations are, it’s an aboriginal meeting place which dates back many, many years, but kind of explain it.
40:44 And it’s so funny because there’s almost a boundary where you leave Byron and the energy stops and it just doesn’t feel the same anymore. Can’t explain it, really weird.
Jordanna
40:54 Yeah. And it’s that feeling sense, isn’t it?
Stu
40:56 It is.
Jordanna
40:56 Yeah. It’s an energy.
Stu
40:57 Absolutely right. Yes, it’s the weirdest thing. But fan-tastic. So look I just noticed we’re coming up on time. So just a couple of questions. What’s next? What have you got in the pipeline? So you’re in Byron, you got the book, the world is your oyster. What are you up to?
Jordanna
41:16 Yeah. Well, just working on the promotion of the book, it’s in Australia, New Zealand and the UK at the moment. Germany just bought the rights to it, so they’re going to publish it in German, which is such a thrill for me. And then working, I guess on getting it into the US and Canada at the moment. I’ve just started writing my next book, which is very different to make it happen. It’s completely different topic actually, which I’m really excited about and I think that people are really going to resonate with this next book. So yeah, that’s kind of what I’m working on over the next, I’ve got 10 months for this next book, so [crosstalk 00:41:59] eight weeks.
Stu
42:00 Yeah, okay. Sounds good. And for those that want to connect with you, find out more, buy the book, just dip into your world, where do we send them?
Jordanna
42:13 Yeah. So they can go to my website, jordannalevin.com. A really cool place to hang out with me is on Instagram. I share a lot of information on Instagram and it’s probably where I’m the most active. And yeah, that’s pretty much it.
Stu
42:31 Fantastic. Well, we will put all of the links to all of the places that we’ve spoken about in the show notes. And very much look forward to sharing this with our audience because I think sometimes we can feel trapped and we realize that, you know what, it’s just the mindset I’m in, there are so many options, the world is our oyster as you’ve found out as well. So, really love the prospect of being able to think about this process in a more practical manner, to be able to just follow it and realize your dreams. So thank you …
Jordanna
43:04 Yeah.
Stu
43:05 … So much for sharing your time and no doubt I will bump into you at some stage in Byron sometime soon. But thanks so much for your time. Really appreciate it.
Jordanna
43:16 Awesome. Thank you so much Stuart.
Stu
43:16 No problems.
