{"id":18082,"date":"2015-02-10T08:31:28","date_gmt":"2015-02-09T21:31:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/?p=18082"},"modified":"2020-06-18T12:00:49","modified_gmt":"2020-06-18T02:00:49","slug":"that-sugar-film-discover-the-foods-that-shocked-me-the-most","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/nutrition\/that-sugar-film-discover-the-foods-that-shocked-me-the-most\/","title":{"rendered":"That Sugar Film &#8211; Discover the Foods That Shocked Me the Most"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><div class=\"vid-wrap\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/p76fXOb0C28?rel=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;wmode=opaque&amp;autohide=1&amp;autoplay=0\"  frameborder=\"0\" allowcfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div><script>(function(d, s, id) {   var js, fjs = d.getElementsByTagName(s)[0];   if (d.getElementById(id)) return;   js = d.createElement(s); js.id = id;   js.src = \"\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\";   fjs.parentNode.insertBefore(js, fjs); }(document, \"script\", \"facebook-jssdk\"));<\/script><div class=\"fb-like\" data-href=\"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/nutrition\/that-sugar-film-discover-the-foods-that-shocked-me-the-most\/\" data-send=\"true\" data-width=\"300\" data-show-faces=\"false\"><\/div><\/p>\n<p><em>The above video is<strong>\u00a03<\/strong>\u00a0minutes\u00a0long.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Watch the full interview below or listen to the full episode on your<\/strong>\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/au\/podcast\/180-nutritions-health-sessions.\/id643508818?mt=2\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">iPhone HERE<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><strong><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-18087 \" src=\"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/mmt789-medium1-210x300.jpg\" alt=\"That sugar film\" width=\"204\" height=\"291\" srcset=\"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/mmt789-medium1-210x300.jpg 210w, https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/mmt789-medium1.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 204px) 100vw, 204px\" \/><\/strong>THAT SUGAR FILM is touring Australia in March. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thatsugarfilm.com\/screenings\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Click Here for details.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>This week we welcome Australian writer and director of the movie &#8216;That Sugar Film&#8217;. A movie we feel that should be seen by every family here in Australia!<\/p>\n<p>THAT SUGAR FILM is one mans journey to discover the bitter truth about sugar. Damon Gameau embarks on a unique experiment to document the effects of a high sugar diet on a healthy body, consuming only foods that are commonly perceived as \u2018healthy\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>Through this entertaining and informative journey, Damon highlights some of the issues that plague the sugar industry, and reveals where sugar lurks on supermarket shelves. THAT SUGAR FILM will change the way you think about \u2018healthy\u2019 food forever.<\/p>\n<div class=\"dots\"><\/div>\n<h3>Full Interview with Damon Gameau THAT SUGAR FILM<\/h3>\n<div class=\"vid-wrap\"><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nHb29urUcHs?rel=0&amp;showinfo=0&amp;wmode=opaque&amp;autohide=1&amp;autoplay=0\"  frameborder=\"0\" allowcfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<h2>Audio Version<\/h2>\n<p><iframe style=\"border: none;\" src=\"\/\/html5-player.libsyn.com\/embed\/episode\/id\/3352530\/height\/90\/theme\/custom\/autoplay\/no\/autonext\/no\/thumbnail\/yes\/preload\/no\/no_addthis\/no\/direction\/backward\/render-playlist\/no\/custom-color\/87A93A\/\" width=\"100%\" height=\"90\" scrolling=\"no\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<div class=\"dots\"><\/div>\n<p style=\"color: #3b3b3b;\"><strong><strong><a style=\"color: #ea5528;\" href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/au\/podcast\/180-nutritions-podcast\/id643508818?mt=2\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright\" title=\"downloaditunes\" src=\"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/wp-content\/uploads\/2014\/02\/downloaditunes-150x150.png\" alt=\"downloaditunes\" width=\"92\" height=\"92\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/strong><strong>In this episode we talk about:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul style=\"color: #3b3b3b;\">\n<li>Why an ex pizza-eating smoker made a movie about\u00a0sugar<\/li>\n<li>The staggering effects of eating 40g of sugar a day for 60 days<\/li>\n<li>The everyday foods containing\u00a0hidden sugars that shocked Damon the most<\/li>\n<li>Damons thoughts on exercising for weight loss after his experiment (I bet it&#8217;s not what you think!)<\/li>\n<li>Why every school in Australia needs to see &#8216;That Sugar Film&#8217;<\/li>\n<li>What Damon eats in a day<\/li>\n<li>And much much more\u2026<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"color: #3b3b3b;\"><a style=\"color: #ea5528;\" href=\"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/category\/180-tv\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">CLICK HERE for all Episodes of 180TV<\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"color: #3b3b3b;\"><strong>Get More of Damon Gameau &amp; That Sugar Film\u00a0Here:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul style=\"color: #3b3b3b;\">\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.thatsugarfilm.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">http:\/\/www.thatsugarfilm.com\/<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a style=\"color: #ea5528;\" href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/thatsugarfilm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Facebook<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div class=\"fb-comments\" data-href=\"https:\/\/180nutrition.com.au\/nutrition\/that-sugar-film-discover-the-foods-that-shocked-me-the-most\/\" data-width=\"100%\" data-num-posts=\"10\"><\/div>\n<div class=\"dots\"><\/div>\n<h3>Transcript<\/h3>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Hey, this is Guy Lawrence from 180 Nutrition, and welcome to another episode of the Health Sessions. Our fantastic guest today is Aussie actor\/film director Damon Gameau.<\/p>\n<p>Now, he is the man behind the new movie that\u2019s just about to be released called That Sugar Film. And, yes, need we say any more with a title like that. But I have had the privilege of seeing it and it\u2019s fantastic and we certainly recommend that you go and check it out. And especially get your family and friends involved as well.<\/p>\n<p>It was a privilege having Damon on the show today. He\u2019s a lot of fun, and, yeah, he\u2019s a very honest guy, too, and just tells it like it is. So it was awesome. And I have no doubt you\u2019ll enjoy this episode.<\/p>\n<p>If you are listening to this through iTunes, as always, just a little simple review: click five stars, subscribe, anything. It just helps us get the word out there; we know you\u2019re enjoying it, too. And it\u2019s always much appreciated. And, of course, come on back to our website, which is 180Nutrition.com.au. These are shot in video as well, if you want to sit there and see our pretty faces as we talk.<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, let\u2019s go over to Damon. Enjoy the show. This is a good one. Cheers.<\/p>\n<p>Hi, this is Guy Lawrence. I\u2019m joined with Stuart Cooke, as always. Hi, Stewie.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Hi, mate.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: And our awesome guest today is Damon Gameau. Damon, welcome to the show. And I hope I pronounced your surname correctly. My Welsh is\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: You got it right. And the fact that I\u2019m an awesome guest is even better. So thank you.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Well, mate, I\u2019m gonna actually keep adding the kindness, because myself and Stu went to the screening last week of your movie. And I have to say, like, we\u2019ve been in this industry a long time. We see a lot of obviously documentaries, things coming up. Your movie was amazing. Like, you nailed it. The message, everything, I thought was fantastic.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Thank you.<\/p>\n<p>I genuinely mean that. I think everybody in Australia needs to see this film. It was just awesome.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Thank you, Guy. That\u2019s a lovely accolade. Yeah, not many people have seen it, obviously. There\u2019s only; they\u2019re starting to do the sort of media screenings now. So, it\u2019s lovely to get feedback because I\u2019m very proud of it and very excited by the potential of what it can do and how far it can reach. And so far the people who have seen it have been very supportive. So, it bodes for exciting times ahead.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yeah. Good on you.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: It does indeed.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: And the way we always start the show, mate, is just, I guess, to get our guests to tell us a little bit about themselves and their journey and, you know, what happened. Why even get to this movie in the first place?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, I do, actually, my girlfriend and I, Zoe, I still often say to her: \u201cHow did I end up making a film and writing a book about sugar? Like, how did that happen? Because really I had no interest in nutrition at all three years ago. It was a topic I didn\u2019t really take much care of myself and the way I fed myself and I was can of Coke a day man. And I loved my chocolates and my sweet tooth.<\/p>\n<p>So, it is very odd that I have been down this incredible rabbit hole for the last three years and looking at everything to do with sugar and reading every book and every scientific study and feel like I\u2019ve met most of the people that know what they\u2019re talking about around the world now.<\/p>\n<p>So, it\u2019s been very rewarding. It\u2019s been an amazing journey. But I guess it started when I did meet my girlfriend seven years ago and I was that typical male that was probably not quite on the tracks. I was a little bit loose. And, as often happens with a man, you meet a woman just at the right time and she steers you in the right direction and I spent the first few weeks of our relationship pretending to love, kind of, cucumber and kale smoothies and organic chia seeds on avocado, whole-grain bread, and all these kind of things.<\/p>\n<p>And I guess I just started cutting out refined sugar from my diet and noticed an immediate effect. People would comment on my healthy, glowing skin and my radiant eyes and I\u2019d lost a bit of weight and I guess the major surprise was I noticed my moods had started to even out. I felt more consistent and calm and I just had more clarity throughout the day.<\/p>\n<p>So, I probably cut almost all of it out for about three years and didn\u2019t really think much of it. And then I won a short film competition called Tropfest and I was; I\u2019m an actor, I\u2019ve been an actor for 10 years, and I was in India doing a film called Save Your Legs about a group of cricketers. And the company, Madman, said to me, \u201cLook, do you have any desire to make a feature film?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And I said, well, at the moment, at the time, I was thinking about an idea of taking quite a healthy male, which was me at the time, and what would happen if I lay down quite sedentary for about a month and read trashy magazines and you fed me hospital food for a month. I wanted to see what would actually happen to the body, if you would actually get better or if you would get worse.<\/p>\n<p>And I guess that\u2019s kind of, it went from there, and I sort of mentioned that there was something about this sugar story. It was starting to appear in the press and the camps were very divided. Some groups were saying it was toxic and poison and other camps were saying it was great for energy.<\/p>\n<p>So I thought, \u201cThere\u2019s a lot of confusion around this. I think it warrants some kind of further investigation.\u201d And got together with two of my best friends and we sort of brainstormed some ideas.<\/p>\n<p>And right from the get-go I sort of thought, well, however we do this, we\u2019ve got to make it fun and playful and accessible. And I read a terrific quote from Oscar Wilde and he said, \u201cIf you want to tell people the truth, you\u2019ve got to make them laugh or they\u2019ll kill you.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And I thought that was a really great motto for any film that I wanted to make, and especially in this area of nutrition and fun if you do want to get a message across it can\u2019t be sort of dry and scientific.<\/p>\n<p>So, that was sort of something that stuck with us right from the beginning and, look, it\u2019s just one of those beautiful stories you feel like it needed to be told and it\u2019s just flowed. Every week someone comes along and offers help and it just unfolds and the story, and suddenly you\u2019ve got Hugh Jackman, Stephen Fry and all these other people, and Jamie Oliver and now it\u2019s gonna release across the U.S. and UK.<\/p>\n<p>And it\u2019s just sort of just unfolded in a beautiful way quite organically over the last three years and I feel very proud to be a part of it and just thrilled about what it might achieve.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: It\u2019s the universe, mate. It was meant to be.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, I firmly believe that stuff and sometimes you get on a current or like a stream and it just flows and you go with it and you just enjoy the ride.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: So, for our listeners out there who may not be aware of the movie and may have just seen the poster that, you know, That Sugar Film, just a very brief synopsis of the film, I guess.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, well, I guess because I was aware that there were so many arguments around this issue and it was quite confusing for the public, I thought the only way I can actually find out is to have an experience myself.<\/p>\n<p>So in the vein of Super Size Me I decided that I would eat what most Australians are eating every day, which was 40 teaspoons of sugar. But the catch would be, I think we all inherently know that if we have too many Cokes and Mars bars we\u2019re gonna get sick. But I was starting to be aware that there is so much sugar hidden in other foods, and quite often food that are perceived to be healthy or marketed in a very healthy way. They\u2019ve got a bee on the cover or a sunset or Mother Nature or some kind of wording like that. And they\u2019re often laced with sugar.<\/p>\n<p>And so I thought: I wonder what would happen if I ate my 40 teaspoons a day, but only ate those foods? So, the experiment is that I don\u2019t have any junk food, no lollies or chocolate or ice cream or soft drink, even. That all the sugar I have is in low-fat yogurts, muesli bars, sports drinks, vitamin waters, all these kind of foods.<\/p>\n<p>And, I guess, yeah. I just set out from there. I assembled a team of experts, scientists and doctors that were kind of monitoring my results, very much like Super Size Me. And, in fact, I actually had a few emails with Morgan Spurlock early on because I kind of considered him as this sort of grand master human lab rat. And I thought that he could maybe sort of monitor my results and I could have a Skype call in every now and again and go, \u201cHey, Morgan, I\u2019m doing it tough. Any tips?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But he was too busy doing the One Direction documentary. So, I sort of went it alone. And, yeah, look, obviously, people who have seen the film, you know I really didn\u2019t know what to expect. We were very low budget in the first three weeks because there was a chance there might not be any results.<\/p>\n<p>But within 12 days I had put on three kilos. And then after 18 days I had developed fatty liver disease. And that was sort of the big turning point, I guess. I remember being in the clinic and ringing the producers and them said, \u201cHow\u2019d you go, mate?\u201d I said, \u201cWell, I\u2019ve got fatty liver disease.\u201d And they said, \u201cYes! That\u2019s so good.\u201d They were loving it.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: This is a two-fold question. Were you nervous before you just started the 60-day experiment? And then what shocked you the most during the 60-day experiment?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: I don\u2019t think I was very nervous to start with, because I really had no idea what to expect. I mean, I thought it might be a complete fizz out, really. I guess I didn\u2019t understand the nutrition.<\/p>\n<p>And other people said to me, \u201cYou\u2019re crazy. There\u2019s gonna be effects.\u201d But because I didn\u2019t understand all this stuff well enough, I just thought, well, it\u2019s healthy. Juice is fine. What\u2019s wrong with a Powerade? You know.<\/p>\n<p>So, I guess it was only as we went on that I started to realize things were getting a bit serious. And I really felt, obviously, my moods were just a complete train wreck. Then towards the end some of the doctors were saying, look, you\u2019re very close to cirrhosis of the liver, which is the hardening of the liver when it\u2019s tricky to turn around from there.<\/p>\n<p>And I guess that\u2019s when it dawned on me, plus my girlfriend was pregnant at the time; we were very close to having a baby. So, that was the moment where I went, \u201cOK. All the fun and games are over now. It\u2019s time to stop and, as you see in the film, the beautiful thing that happened that none of us expected is that the minute I cut out all those sugars again and refined carbohydrates, I lost 90 percent of the weight, my fatty liver disease completely turned around, my heart disease, all my lipid risk factors, hormone sensitivity, completely reversed, just from changing my diet.<\/p>\n<p>And, look, I think that\u2019s a beautiful takeaway message from the film is that it is possible to turn things around and turn around very quickly by eating the right foods.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: It\u2019s unreal, isn\u2019t it? We\u2019re almost beautifully equipped to be healthy and enjoy a perfect health, given the right raw materials.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, it\u2019s our natural disposition, our natural state, like anything in nature, it\u2019s supposed to abundant, and it\u2019s only when we block that flow that we get troubles. And nutrition is no different.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Absolutely right. Any particular foods that shocked you with their hidden sugar content?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Look, I think, probably early on drinks was the big one. I just, you know, I think we all understand that a can of Coke\u2019s got probably eight teaspoons of sugar in it. But when you start seeing Lipton ice teas and flavoured milks and, you know, vitamin waters; all these things that are just full of sugar, that was a big shock for me.<\/p>\n<p>And we know now from the science that it\u2019s particularly detrimental because of the way that it just floods the liver so quickly that it turns to fat a lot faster than other foods that might metabolize a bit slower.<\/p>\n<p>So, drinks are really the thing we need to get ahold of very quickly because they are causing a lot of problems.<\/p>\n<p>But then there\u2019s things like sauces, you know. There\u2019s a great stat we put out recently where one tablespoon of barbecue sauce has two teaspoons of sugar in it. You know? And that\u2019s just like\u2026<\/p>\n<p>And there\u2019s a fat-free mayonnaise that\u2019s got just, nearly the same amount of sugar or perhaps more than a can of Coke. So, I think people need to start reading labels. And, again, that\u2019s something we want to address in the film, that there\u2019s a lot of ambiguity around food labeling and certainly a lack of accountability and integrity in terms of what these companies are able to put on their products.<\/p>\n<p>And, as we know, people believe those slogans. They believe what they read. And we\u2019ve got to change that.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Don\u2019t second-guess it. What amazed me about when you were doing the experiment was the fact that I think you were racking up so much sugar just by breakfast time. And I see so many people eating their meals constantly.<\/p>\n<p>Because I don\u2019t eat; honestly, I\u2019ve been eating this way for eight, nine years and it doesn\u2019t even occur to me to look at the labels and count sugar because I just avoid those foods.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: But when you\u2019re hitting over 20 grams of sugar by breakfast time, that\u2019s insane.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, that\u2019s right. And I guess that\u2019s the first meal I had, and straightaway I knew that there was something going on because I\u2019d had a bowl of Just Rights and some low-fat peach-flavored yogurt and a glass of apple juice and that was 20 teaspoons.<\/p>\n<p>And that is marketed as a very healthy cereal. And most people think they\u2019re doing the right thing and give that to their kids every day and that\u2019s where we need to change the paradigm, because that\u2019s unfair to those people who think they\u2019re doing the right thing. And especially when you look at the effects on sugar on cognition and we look at the area of hyperglycemia and what happens and how the brain releases all these chemicals to deal with that sugar crash.<\/p>\n<p>And you\u2019ve got to think about school kids and what\u2019s happening to them when they\u2019re trying to learn in class at 9:15 after a breakfast like that. And if they\u2019re struggling to concentrate and be focused, then we\u2019ve got to have a look at what their diet is and start adding more fats and proteins in there so that they can have a more stable metabolism.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yeah. I think the one thing, as well, I saw about the movie was product placement. I thought it was the first movie that I actually think it\u2019s justified in such a great way, because you don\u2019t hold back at all. And it\u2019s good to see and it highlights, actually, what\u2019s going on, because it makes it very real.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, we\u2019ll see. Because it hasn\u2019t been released yet.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: That was gonna be the next question.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, look, that was something that I was very adamant that I wanted to happen, and I think what protects us is that I\u2019m not making anything up. Anything I show, I\u2019m showing them the exact amount of teaspoons that are in that product. And we\u2019re not fabricating anything. It\u2019s just that those figures are often very tough for people to read. And what we\u2019re doing is showing the easy way to read them.<\/p>\n<p>So, hopefully, that will protect us in a way. We\u2019re not sort of, I guess, making anything up. It\u2019s just people need to be aware of how to read labels. Because at the moment, people don\u2019t know.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Have you had any criticism yet, on that side, or is it anything starting to lurk or?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, there\u2019s been; I met a man, a lovely man, Kelly Brownell, in America and he studied this area and he\u2019s looked at tobacco and food and the correlations between the tactics that the sugar companies use and the food industries use. And, look, some of them are quite subversive. It\u2019s almost that there\u2019s, you know, a couple of people that like to really tweak quite aggressive personal things, to me, or they\u2019ll just start trolling or kind of, they\u2019ll go onto our Facebook page and start just presenting counterarguments.<\/p>\n<p>And this is what they\u2019ve done for years. If they can create a sense of ambiguity in the public arena, then that\u2019s all they need to do, because people start questioning it. And they\u2019re masters of that. And as you see in the film, we meet someone who actually works for Coke and I would argue that that\u2019s part of his role is to sort of put this message out there that, ah, it\u2019s all: \u201cDon\u2019t worry about this fructose stuff. Sugar\u2019s fine. Everyone\u2019s just overreacting.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But I think there\u2019s enough science coming out now. In fact, pouring out. And there\u2019s even a terrific new website that\u2019s just started out of the University of California called Sugar Science, and I\u2019ve looked at and reviewed 8,000 studies that link sugar to various metabolic diseases.<\/p>\n<p>So, you know, that\u2019s a terrific reference for me to have now. And some of those people have run that arena in the film. And I think so what that means is, people have said to me if the science is in, they\u2019re gonna go to the man, so you\u2019re probably going to get a couple of snide personal attacks. But I kind of knew that right from the get-go, and I knew what I was in for.<\/p>\n<p>But, look, I\u2019m pretty confident there\u2019s such a groundswell of people that understand this now and there\u2019s a real community that\u2019s really pushing for some kind of food revolution, as you guys would know. So, I feel pretty protected by what\u2019s going on. So, it will come and it will just; water off a duck\u2019s back.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Bring it on, we say.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: We\u2019re ready. We\u2019re ready.<\/p>\n<p>So, with everything that you know right now about diet, and million dollar question, what are your thoughts on exercise for weight loss now?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, look. I can only speak from my personal experience. And I\u2019ve always been a lazy exerciser, so I don\u2019t do cardio. I just don\u2019t like it. And when I stopped the experiment, I was, again, I put on 8 and a half kilos, I got the fatty liver disease, 10 centimetres of visceral fat around my waist. And I thought, well, I didn\u2019t really give much thought about how I was gonna lose it. And I sat down straightaway and started editing the film. I was writing the book as well. So, I was in front of a laptop for the best part of two months.<\/p>\n<p>And just by eating those healthy foods again, going back to my old diet, I lost, like I said, 90 percent of the weight and turned everything around.<\/p>\n<p>And I was doing very minimal exercise. I mean, I was still being active. I was going for walks with my girlfriend down the road and sometimes I would do a little bit of sort of light weights and things like that. But from my perspective, I think this sort of, I guess it\u2019s almost a myth that\u2019s embedded in culture now that says you\u2019ve got to; you put on the calories, you\u2019ve got to burn off the equivalent amount. I think that\u2019s a lot of rubbish, from my experience that nutrition plays the far more important role in weight loss.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s not to begrudge exercise. There are terrific benefits and endorphin releases and all sorts of other factors, but as a weight loss tool I think we need to rethink that. And you guys have seen in the film that I didn\u2019t eat any more calories than I did before the experience. And that\u2019s another huge topic I think people should get out of the film which is the way people perceive calories and some of the science now that says, hey, maybe the calories from sugar actually behave very differently from other calories and it isn\u2019t as it seems.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Absolutely. And Stewie over there, I\u2019ll just give you a little bit of insight, he is the calorie-eating champion. And you can see his abs, mate. He\u2019ll crank it up. And it just goes to show that\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: That\u2019s it. I mean, it\u2019s such an open book on that. There are so many other variables. We\u2019ve got genetics and of course a calorie is not a calorie. You know, 500 calories of broccoli versus 500 calories of bread and jam are gonna behave so radically different.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: That\u2019s right. I hope we get to a point, too, that we realize that, as you guys know, we are all different and there is no guide all of us can follow. There are so many factors, hormonally or genetically, whatever it is that are going on, that, you know, I certainly don\u2019t want people to go, \u201cHey, this is the truth! This sugar message.\u201d I know there are millions of people out there that won\u2019t have the same effects from this diet that I did. But my hunch is that there are probably more that will, and they\u2019ll benefit from the movie.<\/p>\n<p>But I\u2019m certainly not being dogmatic about it and saying everyone else has to cut out sugar like I did. Some people can have it, and lucky them. I mean, I\u2019m one of those people when I smoked, it was a pack a day. I couldn\u2019t just dabble in one or two cigarettes. And I\u2019m the same with sugar. I can\u2019t have a couple of pieces of chocolate. That packet is gone by morning.<\/p>\n<p>And, you know, that\u2019s just me and I accept that. But I just think if, given we are around 30 to 50 teaspoons a day, we can get it around to the World Health Organization which says six, we\u2019re going to see a dramatic overhaul in our health system; the finance that it\u2019s costing us and on people\u2019s wellbeing and happiness.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yeah, definitely. Have you gone and influenced your friends, like from making this movie in the way they eat and look at things?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: In a kind of annoying way, I guess, sometimes I\u2019ll meet a friend and they\u2019ll have, like, a juice on the table and they\u2019ll literally hide it under the table. I\u2019m not that guy! I can\u2019t help that. I think I\u2019ve just gone and done that and I\u2019ll have to live with it.<\/p>\n<p>But, yeah, a lot of my friends who thought this was all a bit weird when we started, I mean, when we started this three years ago, there were hardly any articles about sugar. It was not in the mainstream at all. And I was actually thinking that we\u2019d probably break the story, which is so na\u00efve now.<\/p>\n<p>But, yeah, I think people have sort of gone, \u201cWow, OK. So, you know, you got onto this at the right time. It really has exploded.\u201d And people are being more aware. They are reading their labels and, I guess, what\u2019s great, some of my friends are being very particular about what they feed their kids. And that\u2019s the most important area for me, and that\u2019s why I\u2019ve aimed the film at kids and families is that if we can cut off that generation at the pass before they ingrain any of these eating habits and get this taste of the sweet and preference for the sweet, then we\u2019ve kind of got a better chance of helping them in the future.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Perfect. And a perfect place to start. So, I\u2019ve got kids. Most of my friends have got kids as well. Where would a family start on this journey? I mean, would it be cold turkey? Because I can imagine a lots of screaming kids crying when they\u2019re not getting the foods they love.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: No. That\u2019s a disaster; the cold-turkey method. I mean, unless you understand it, and I was lucky that I\u2019d been through that process before, when I gave it up a few years ago. So I knew what to expect.<\/p>\n<p>I think we\u2019ve got to be very careful about this, especially when you are in this space, there is a very; culture is very black and white and, you know, there isn\u2019t that sort of gray area. And this is something, because of sugar\u2019s emotional ties, we know that it releases the same endorphins that love releases, and there are very strong reward circuits that are activated with sugar, is that it has become a reward and a comfort for a lot of people. And they will turn to it in a difficult time.<\/p>\n<p>So, if you just suddenly rip that away, there is gonna be some form of trauma, obviously, varied from person to person. So, I think we have to be very understanding of that, be very kind to ourselves, and sort of come off that very slowly.<\/p>\n<p>And it\u2019s obviously foods that are really great in that regard. There are sweet potato for someone just starting off, or there\u2019s certain fruits, like the berries that I use, they\u2019ve still got a sweetness to them but they help you slowly come off instead of just making that sudden jolt.<\/p>\n<p>So, in the book I sort of talk about that a lot and eventually you can get to a point where maybe you\u2019re having no sugar, that\u2019s fine, but I think you\u2019ve just got to make sure that you treat yourself very, very gently because it can be tough.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Absolutely.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Me not be not a parent yet, the part in the movie where you ate your last meal, and it was a kid\u2019s lunchbox, my jaw hit; it just dropped. I couldn\u2019t believe it. Because I\u2019m not in that world at all yet.<\/p>\n<p>And it just seems remarkably scary, actually, what\u2019s going on. And even from a struggling parent\u2019s point of view, it\u2019s like: Where to start? Even I was starting to think, jeez, how would you do that? Because every kid\u2019s got the same lunchbox. They\u2019d be trading at work, like, you know, sugar\u2019s insidious. It\u2019s in everything.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: You know, that\u2019s part of the reason we\u2019ve got a school screening program, we\u2019ve got like a School Action Kit, so we\u2019ve developed a study guide for grade 5 to 11 and they get a copy of the book, the film, the study guide, they get posters for the classroom, we\u2019ve done a free app that helps them scan sugars and understand.<\/p>\n<p>And I think we\u2019re trying to get all the principals on board so that we can really start to approach them and say, hey, let\u2019s look at your canteen. Because we know that kids now are getting nearly 40 percent of their daily energy intake from the tuck shop.<\/p>\n<p>So, at the moment, there\u2019s a real sort of ambiguity about the kind of products that are in there. And, you know, that should almost be at the top of the list in terms of importance, of getting those vending machines out there, which sell Coke and all sorts of other things.<\/p>\n<p>And it\u2019s hard, because the schools make a lot of profit off those machines. So, what are we gonna replace them with? And I think that\u2019s gonna take a collective effort, and already people are approaching us or we\u2019re people who are really keen to help with this. And I think slowly but surely it will look very different in about 10 years, because there\u2019s just such a tidal wave of understanding around this issue now that we\u2019re moving really quickly and I\u2019m very confident that we\u2019ll see change faster than we think.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: I think so. It\u2019s gonna be very tricky to ignore, for one.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, that\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Very tricky.<\/p>\n<p>I hear the phrase a lot that kids simply burn off sugar. And a lot of parents say, \u201cOh, they\u2019re OK. They burn it up. They are constantly moving.\u201d What do you say to that phrase?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, look. I\u2019ve spoken to some scientists about this as well. I mean, as you\u2019ve said, the guy in the film, Larry, who has the 12 cans of Mountain Dew a day and it\u2019s destroyed his teeth, he does; some teenagers are able to deal with the metabolism of fructose differently to other people. That said, they might be thin on the outside, but we don\u2019t know what\u2019s actually going on inside in terms of what\u2019s happening with their liver or the visceral fat.<\/p>\n<p>But also I think it really is affecting; hormonally, you\u2019re setting up patterns of behavior that might affect hormones or might affect other areas of the body that we might start programming at a young age and you might not start seeing the effects until we\u2019re in our 20s or 30s or 40s.<\/p>\n<p>But if this kind of pattern of eating is established, then there are detrimental consequences down the track, and especially when you think of the palate and how the palate does adjust.<\/p>\n<p>And that was the other surprise of the film for me which was when I came off the sugar again, that first week of eating Zoe\u2019s food again was quite tricky. It tasted so bland and sort of uninteresting, because sugar almost had a numbing effect on my palate. I only wanted sweet things.<\/p>\n<p>But after two weeks, I started to notice the subtle nuance of flavors, like a carrot became sweet and a banana was almost too sweet, and you can really start to understand those flavors and those nuances, and, look, that\u2019s what we\u2019ve got to get into our kids. They\u2019ve got to understand that these foods are delicious when they can actually really taste them properly.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s gonna take an effort, but I think that\u2019s more impetus to not get them down the path of sugar eating when they\u2019re younger, because then they won\u2019t eat that kind of junk when they get older.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yeah. The other topic that I just wanted to raise with you was the aboriginal community, as well. I had had no idea that that had happened or had gone on at all. You know, it wasn\u2019t even on my radar. Like, where did you first come across that? It was such a beautiful topic to put into the movie.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: It\u2019s the big one for me. It\u2019s very close to my heart. I did a film; my first-ever film was in 2002 and it was with a guy name Rolf de Heer and it was called The Tracker. It was an Australian film. And I went and spent a lot of time with David Gulpilil, who is the beautiful aboriginal actor, and he invited me to come up to his homeland in Ramingining for a couple of weeks.<\/p>\n<p>And I up there back in 2002 and just didn\u2019t think much of it but just couldn\u2019t get over the amount of Coca-Cola that was being consumed, and the soft drinks in stores there. And so when the opportunity to do this film came up I thought, well, I wonder what\u2019s happening there? I wonder if anything has changed? And I found this quote on a Coca-Cola website that said that the Northern Territory in Australia was their highest-selling region per capita in the world.<\/p>\n<p>And that is an astonishing figure, and it\u2019s in direct relation to the amount of Coca-Cola that\u2019s sort in stores through the territory to the aboriginal people, and going up there and meeting the people who work there in the stores and they just say, \u201cLook, we can\u2019t stock the fridges fast enough. We put in it, it goes, we put it in again.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>And, you know, that\u2019s an issue we need to address very, very quickly. And what\u2019s good about the film is that I found a community where the elders had got together, they didn\u2019t rely on any kind of white man to tell them what to do, and they decided that sugar was having this effect, and so they voted to remove full-strength Coca-Cola from their town. And instantly they had vast improvements in their sugar consumption.<\/p>\n<p>But then they lost their government funding, so the nutritionist got pulled out, so the education stopped with Coke and didn\u2019t make its way to Sprite and juices and all the other sugar drinks which they think are fine.<\/p>\n<p>So, we\u2019ve actually started a foundation which I\u2019m really delighted about that I\u2019m putting money from the film and the book back into it, but we\u2019re also raising money philanthropically to give them money to keep that education going, and we\u2019ve been able to send nutritionists and dietitians out there to start training some of the local people that want to learn about this stuff. And then they\u2019ll work in the stores and they\u2019ll help people make smarter shopping choices and do posters on the shelves so you can see maybe Weet-Bix instead of Coco Pops for now, and, again, start to do that gradual awareness around sugar, because if ever there\u2019s a hunter-gatherer race, it\u2019s the aboriginals and they just can\u2019t with the high-sugar diet.<\/p>\n<p>And I think the government, in their wisdom, with all this low-fat movement, have removed all the fat, they\u2019ve cut all the fat off their meat, they\u2019ve done all that sort of thing, and it\u2019s just madness because they\u2019ve been eating those foods for centuries and had no problems at all.<\/p>\n<p>So, look, there\u2019s a lot of work do there and it\u2019s a great, great tragedy. But I\u2019m very excited about what the film might be able to do, and raise awareness around that issue and get schoolkids involved and start making a different.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: And is the foundation linked on your website, as well? Because we can put some links on this.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: That would be great, mate. Yeah, it\u2019s at startup. So we\u2019re doing this sort of\u00a0 proper launch a bit later in the year, but there is a link to it now if people want to help out.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yep. Fantastic. Stu?<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Yeah, so, you touched on the launch as well, of your media screenings, and you\u2019re going out to schools. So, how could we get every person in Australia to watch this movie?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, look, what\u2019s been great is we decided, because Australian films have been having a rough trot lately, towards the end of last year we decided that instead of just doing a blanket release everywhere, because that hadn\u2019t been working in Australia, that we would do this series of Q and A\u2019s around the country. So I would go and do 26 different towns around Australia. And within a week of releasing that, we\u2019ve had a large majority have sold out. The response has been fantastic.<\/p>\n<p>And a lot of cinemas have put on an extra two or three screenings already, so that\u2019s without people seeing the film; it\u2019s just from the trailer. So, I\u2019m excited about once people see the film and then start spreading that word of mouth and telling their friends that, you know, the cinemas will run for a long time, so if people want the opportunity, they can go and see it.<\/p>\n<p>When that cinema run ends, we\u2019ve also got a; I mean, we\u2019re just getting a ton of requests from people that want to do private screenings or fund-raiser screenings, so we\u2019ll send the film off to your local town and you can put on a fund-raiser or gather a group of people. The same goes for schools.<\/p>\n<p>And then my goal is to get it into every school in Australia by the end of the year. And so far we\u2019ve had an incredible amount of schools that have signed up that are really interested in it. And I think, again, as the film\u2019s actually out there, you guys have seen it, you know that it will generate its own discussion and people will want to; they\u2019ll be talking about it.<\/p>\n<p>So, that\u2019s my hope. Then we do the same in the UK and the U.S. And, again, I think because the film will be out and about this year, that hopefully it will kind of generate a discussion and more people and it will kind of have a snowball effect. And then it will release on television at the middle of the year. We\u2019ve sold it to one of the networks and then DVD, of course, and iTunes.<\/p>\n<p>And so there\u2019s a real chance that we can spread it out as far and wide as we can and I\u2019m also gonna be pushing it and doing anything I can, going to screenings and doing all the Q and A\u2019s, because, like I said, I\u2019m very passionate about it. I\u2019m very proud of it. And I want as many people as I can to see it as well.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yeah. Fantastic. Good on you, man. That\u2019s just awesome.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: I\u2019m just thinking about the audience at the time, with their Choc-tops and their Coca-Cola. At what point do they put down\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: I did actually think; early on I thought it would be great to actually have a hidden camera that had night vision. And then just watch their faces like suddenly put it down about 10 minutes later. You\u2019d see this cup disappear. Ah!<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: We\u2019ve got a few questions we ask everyone on the podcast every week, and one of them is: Can you tell us what you ate today or yesterday?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: What I ate today? That\u2019s a good question. What did I eat today? Well, just before you guys I made this kind of muddle in the fry pan. It had halloumi. It had chicken. It had mushrooms. And it had broccoli. It was like a weird kind of mangled stir fry.<\/p>\n<p>For breakfast I had a smoothie and I had a bit of coconut water with the flesh in it. I had cucumber. I had some spinach. And a little bit of coconut yogurt. And that\u2019s pretty much all I\u2019ve eaten today. And I had a handful of almonds.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Wow.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Fantastic.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Real food.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: It\u2019s not hard to do either, is it?<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: That\u2019s right.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Delicious. Absolutely delicious.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Food that our grandparents would recognize.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: I know. That\u2019s right. That great quote about; that says \u201cOrganic: what your grandparents used to call food.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Yeah, I saw that.<\/p>\n<p>Another question as well that we don\u2019t ask everybody on the show: I notice you\u2019ve got a really cool pair of orange Y-fronts that made their appearance throughout the show. Where can we grab hold of those?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: They started yellow and they ended up as orange.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Oh. Oh! Then maybe we\u2019ll stop here.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah. No, look, when people see the film we just, we tried to sort of do a little thing where I jump in my undies every day and we\u2019d put it together at the end and hopefully see some kind of change.<\/p>\n<p>But, yeah, the best story is I think we were in a town in the Bible Belt of America, because we did 11 states in 17 days, and I dropped my pants to do that scene, and this woman just ran out of this shop and just gave me the biggest serve about indecency of my nudity, of my public nudity, and I should be ashamed of myself and I\u2019m a sinner in the eyes of the Lord. And we got chased out of town. Absolutely chased out of town.<\/p>\n<p>So, there were lots of good stories like that.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Is that gonna be on the extended version?<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: I think so. Director\u2019s Cut.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Awesome. And, yeah, the other question we always ask, mate, is: What\u2019s the best piece of advice you\u2019ve ever been given? And that can be related to anything.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Follow your heart. Like, your heart knows best. Your intuition knows best. The ego tries to get in the way and control things, but we all deep down actually know, and if you trust that, you\u2019ll end up in the right place.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Perfect.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Crikey, you\u2019re right. We actually do, don\u2019t we? There is that kind of ingrained awareness, like, you know, \u201cmy gut feeling is probably right.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, it\u2019s your own GPS, you know. And we override it sometimes and think we know better, but sometimes you\u2019ve got to listen to it.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Yeah. Done. OK.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: And so what does the future hold for Damon Gameau? Like, what\u2019s next? You know.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: A lot of sugar this year, I reckon. There\u2019s going to be a lot of talking about sugar. But that\u2019s OK. But, yeah, I\u2019ve got a 15-month-old daughter who I\u2019m pretty besotted with and I haven\u2019t spent nearly as much time as I\u2019d like to, so there\u2019s gonna be a bit of that balancing going on; that act.<\/p>\n<p>And then we\u2019re obviously going to travel with the film for the rest of this year. And then I\u2019ve got a couple of ideas that I\u2019d like to start. Like, doing another film. But I just need to give myself, my brain, and my family a break for awhile and just; I have a tendency to kind of keep going and it\u2019s often detrimental to my own health. So, I\u2019m just gonna take it easy.<\/p>\n<p>And also just enjoy; you know, I\u2019m very proud of\u2026 I mean, this film\u2019s taken three years to make and I\u2019m very proud of it, so I actually want to make sure that I enjoy releasing it instead of rushing on to the next thing, which I have a habit of doing. I really want to soak up and see everything that comes of it this year.<\/p>\n<p>So, that\u2019s my focus for now and then I\u2019ll deal with the next projects later on.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Perfect.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Fair enough. And website: What\u2019s the best place to go to, mate? Obviously, they can just check the movie, That Sugar Film.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Yeah, that\u2019s the film website and that\u2019s got all the dates and the screenings around Australia. It\u2019s also got lots of pages that give information about our school programs and the book and the app and everything like that. Plus, there\u2019s a ton of recipes on there that Zoe actually me to help me come off the sugar again. There\u2019s a free e-book that you can download there. And we\u2019ve got a Facebook page, thatsugarfilm is the Twitter, there\u2019s the Instagram. All that kind of usual. I think there\u2019s even a Pinterest page. I\u2019ve never seen it, but apparently.<\/p>\n<p>So, I don\u2019t think there\u2019s a Tinder profile but I\u2019ll see if I can get to that.<\/p>\n<p>Stuart Cooke: Give it time. There will be.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: It\u2019s grow. It\u2019ll grow.<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Date Willy Wonka on Tinder. That\u2019s\u2026 Willy Wanker.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Chocolate factory. Well, look, that was awesome. I mean, thanks for coming on the show. That was, yeah, everyone\u2019s gonna get a lot out of it, I have no doubt. And we\u2019ll push this message as far and wide as we can as well and get behind it because what you\u2019ve done\u2026<\/p>\n<p>Damon Gameau: Well, thank you very much for your support. And it does require a team effort, I reckon. And what you guys are doing and what lots of other people are doing all add together and I think we can actually change the food paradigm, which is very exciting.<\/p>\n<p>Guy Lawrence: Yeah, Absolutely. Good on you, Damon. 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