Dr Bruce Lipton – At Last, Scientific Proof of How Our Thoughts Can Make Us Healthy or Sick

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Stu: Have you wondered how much our thoughts can determine our overall health? Does living in the states of love and happiness versus fear and anxiety impact us long term? The above video shares the scientific explanation (in simple terms) with 48 years of research behind it, on how or our thoughts, beliefs and perceptions can directly affect our health.

I actually think it’s probably one of the most important podcasts we have recorded to date. So when you get the chance, check out the full interview with Dr Bruce Lipton. You can simply download the audio onto your phone via iTunes or watch it below.

Some of his best selling books include – The Biology of Belief, Spontaneous Evolution and The Honeymoon Effect.


“When you find yourself on a vicious cycle, for goodness sakes, stop peddling!” — Swami Beyondananda”
― Bruce H. Lipton, Cell Biologist & Best Selling Author


Our awesome guest this week is Dr Bruce Lipton.  If you’re not familiar with his work, then you would definitely in for an eye opening treat. He is internationally recognized leader in bridging Science and spirit together. He’s a stem cell biologist, best selling author of the Biology of Belief and he has been a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows as well as keynote presenters from national and international conferences all around the world.

Dr Bruce Lipton Full Interview: How Thought & Beliefs Can Make Us Healthy or Sick

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downloaditunesQuestions we ask in this episode:

  • What is the biology of belief?
  • Is it true that 95% of our day is run by subconscious programming of our past?
  • How do we change the programming?
  • Are we a victim of our genetics?
  • How can we change our beliefs and perceptions?
  • What is ‘super’ learning?
  • And much much more…


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Hi, this is Guy of the 180 Nutrition and welcome to today’s health sessions. We have a pearler of an episode today and in my biased opinion, I actually think it’s probably one of the most important podcasts we have recorded to date. I definitely recommend that you check out the whole podcast because it could potentially change your life. I know it’s a big claim. Our amazing guest today is Dr. Bruce Lipton. If you’re not familiar with his work, then you would definitely in for an eye opening treat. He is internationally recognized leader in bridging Science and spirit together. He’s a stem cell biologist, best selling author of the Biology of Belief which is an amazing book by the way and is being a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows as well as keynote presenters from national and international conferences all around the world. I was very excited to get Bruce on the show today. We’ve been anticipating and trying to get him on for a few months and we finally kind of pinned him down and he came on and give us his a hundred percent attention.

[00:02:00] He was just an amazing human being, exceptionally likable and his message is really clear. Now, we discussed beliefs, perceptions and how that can actually affect their own well-being and health as well. We even get into what he calls his energy psychology and super learning and how we can actually go back to the root of the beliefs and change them within ten minutes. I know it sounds incredible. If you don’t understand the podcast the first go, listen to it for a couple of times because when this penny drops, it genuinely the information there is I think just so important for each and everyone of us and myself too. I’m very proud to be able to get this podcast out to you guys this week. Sit back, enjoy our company with Dr. Bruce Lipton. Hi, this is Guy Lawrence, I’m joined with Stuart Cooke as always. Hi, Stu.

Stu: Hello, Mate. How are you?

Guy: Now our amazing guest today is Dr. Bruce Lipton. Bruce, welcome to the show.
Bruce: I am so happy to be here with you guys because you guys are putting out the word about how we can move into this world peaceably, happily and moving to the future. Thank you for this opportunity and also I want to thank you for letting me speak to your community because we have some wonderful things to talk about for self empowerment.
Guy: Oh, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. You know it’s interesting and I have to ask you this question, because when people ask me how do you describe Bruce’s work, I go, “Oh.” You know, and I really have to think about it. My first question will be to you, if you are on an airplane and a complete stranger sat next to you and then asked you what did you do for a living, what would you say?

Bruce: I help people empower themselves to take back their control of their lives and to realize that they’re not victims of forces outside of their control that they’re actual masters of their lives. Since the lack of a certain amount of knowledge, they’re not being able to effectively control themselves. You know, it’s interesting there’s a phrase called “knowledge is power” and yet there’s a corollary that’s very, it’s much more relevant and that is “a lack of knowledge is a lack of power.” We are powerless not because we’re not powerful but we are powerless because of the programming and knowledge that we have received is actually disempowering for us as individuals.

Guy: Yeah, right. Perfect. Myself and Stu you know, we’ve been to individual, you know, lots and lots of people. We’ve been doing this podcast for three and a half years, we love it. We often refer to having this matrix moments. You know when Keanu Reeves has got the choice of taking two pills and you know, you take the blue pill. I think it would be fair to say Stu had this matrix moment the other day. Would that be fair, Stu? A little bit …

Stu: I did. Yes, I did go and another one, another one. I had them all the time.

Bruce: Let me offer you a point of view from a scientific point of view. Most everybody thinks the matrix is a fictional story. The fact is, it is a documentary because the fact is we have been programmed and people are totally unaware of that program. When they get out of the program, it’s the first time they’ve ever experienced the life that they dreamed about, they imagined, the ones that they wished for, the one that everyone says, “Oh, that’s like a dream like it’s like.” No. Getting out of the matrix, taking the red pill is what will save us. In fact, it’s simply this, the idea that we’ve been programmed is not a new idea. It’s four hundred years old that people had been told about being programmed. The Jesuits have a phrase and it is “give me a child until it’s seven and I will show you the man.” What they were saying was, if you give me the first seven years of a child’s life, I will control the outcome of that child’s life.

It turns out this is not just a saying, this is a biological reality that we have been programmed and unfortunately, almost all of the programs we gathered disempowering programs, limiting, self sabotaging programs. The simple part is, when we do take that red pill and we get out, it’s a whole new world. You say, “What’s a red pill?” I’ll give you example because all I have to do is say, “Go back to what time you fell in love.” I’m sure most every listener on your show has at least one time fallen in love. I go, think about it this way, up until you met this person all your life was all you have to this person could suck. You say, This is crap life, crap life.” Then, you meet this person and it’s like, “Oh, my God. It’s heaven on earth. Life is beautiful.” You’re healthier. You’re happier. You got so much energy. You made love for days without stopping for food or sleep. You are so … Life is great. It was so good. You couldn’t wait to wake up in the morning. It was heaven on earth. I go, “Wait.”
[00:06:00] Your life was crap but then you meet this person and then it’s heaven on earth for a period of time. Why? What happened? Science has revealed what happened. The moment you fell in love was the exact equivalent of taking the red pill. The red pill got you out of the program. I said what was the consequence again in the other program? You say, “Hey, your life was crap. [inaudible 00:06:22] was heaven on earth.” The result is when you got out of the program, you realize the fundamental truth that this is heaven. This is a place where you come to create. This is the place where you come to experience. This is where you learn. When you die and you leave this body behind, you go with the memory, the experiences. Therefore, people say, “Oh, when I die I’m going to go to heaven. I got, “No sense but a cosmic joke.” When you’re alive …

Guy: You’re in heaven.

Bruce: [00:08:00] … you were born, you were born into heaven. You say, “Yeah, but it don’t look heaven.” I go, “When you took the red pill, when you fell in love, it turned into heaven. Didn’t it?” In fact, what was the difference? The answer was you got out of the program. The program that the Jesuits have been talking about for four hundred years. The first seven years of your life is programmed and then you get consciousness working at age seven. Then you get your hands on the wheel to drive the vehicle. I said, “Yeah, but your driver education was the first seven years.” If you didn’t get a good teacher, you’ve got bad driver education. It’s an obstacle course life. You’re trying to get through without hitting too many things and destroying the vehicle before the end of the ride and it turns out if you understand what we’re talking about right now that you can rewrite this programs, you don’t have to wait to fall in love. You could have a heaven on earth experience for a hundred and forty years of natural life on this planet. The vehicles called the human body, they don’t make it a hundred forty. Why? We have bad driver education.

We are crap education. We destroy the vehicles. That’s very interesting. You go to a junkyard and you look at thousand cars in the junkyard. “Uh. Did they build a thousand bad cars and that’s how they ended up in the junkyard?” I go, “No.” A very small percentage of these cars were built with a problem. The large majority of cars in the junkyard are because the driver didn’t have full understanding of how to drive and maintain the vehicle. The new biology says what? Simple. This biology, this is a machine. This is a biological mechanism. It’s a vehicle. What’s interesting is there’s a driver with driver education. If you got good driver education, this vehicle will stay healthy a hundred and forty years and bring you all the joy and happiness you can imagine. If you got crap driver education, this vehicle’s going to be in the junkyard before you know it.
Guy: Yes, such a good analogy.

Stu: I wanted to just touch back then on the red pill I took the other day. To give you a little bit of background between Guy and myself, so we’ve been on this health journey for a while now and we’ve been learning so much and it’s very exciting the new stuff everyday. I’m more of a scientific guy and Guy is more woo-woo.
Bruce: I’m in the middle. You guys are both right.

Stu: [00:10:00] I need proof and that’s kind of how I accept it and I’m roll on from from their words. Guy is always very, “You know, oh, I believe in that we’ve got so much power in our minds and stuff like that.” I said, “Prove it.” He was telling me last week that we really can influence our health just by the way we think. I said, “Yeah, whatever.” Okay. Then, I listen to a podcast with you and you were explaining about petri dishes and the human cells and how we can actually influence a disease through our bodies through our thoughts. I thought, “This is just unbelievable.” It makes sense. The only time that I’ve heard it made sense and I’ve been telling lots of people and they’ve been looking at your work and finding out more so I wondered if you could just tell us a little bit about your stem cell research and the connection there between thoughts.

Bruce: Okay. It’s a really wonderful insight because it’s going to connect both of you back under the same page so you can be woo-woo and you can be scientific because the woo-woo is scientific. It’s just not been recognized by the forces that are presently controlling us. We are in the program of being controlled. We are brought into a belief that genes characterize our lives, that genes are responsible for the diseases and our behavior and our emotions and that we come with this change that as far as we know we didn’t pick. We can’t change the genes and then we learn that the genes control our lives. Then we learn that, “Oh, my God. There’s illnesses in the family and that these are genetic and I’m born into this family and it’s like inevitably, I’m going to express these genes and I’m going to have the same illnesses my parents got. Blah, blah, blah. Which is like fear. That’s our belief system. In fact, I was teaching that in medical school when I first started teaching.

[00:12:00] A teaching in the believers it’s called genetic determinism which is a scientific belief that genes determine the character of your life, not just the physical but emotional behavior as well. The [robins 00:11:31] about that is what does it mean to the average person? It says this, as far as we know we didn’t pick the genes, if we don’t like the genes we have, we can’t change them and they apparently control you. All of a sudden you said, “Oh, my God. I’m not in charge of my life. My genes are in charge of my life. I am a victim of my heredity. Oh, my God. There’s cancer running in my family so I’m going to have to get ready and prepare myself for this cancer.” We’re brought into this belief that genes control illness. Let me give you a fact that first of all should just go. Here’s the fact. Less than one percent of disease is connected to genes. Less than one. I said, “Wait. What about ninety plus percent of the diseases? Cancer, diabetes, heart attacks, Alzheimer’s. Where are they coming from?

The new biology reveals that it’s not coming from the genes but it’s coming from the way we are controlling our vehicles, the driving of these vehicles. I said, “Where’s that all come from?” I said, “Let me go back as you ask, where did I come into this?” I’m teaching in a medical school genes control life. In my laboratory, I’m growing stem cells. This is back in 1968, says like 48 years ago, I was growing them. Forty eighth years ago I can assure there weren’t many people that are on this screen right now that even knew what a stem cell was. There was hardly anybody. I happen to be in the right place at the right time. What is a stem cell? First thing is this, stem cell is an embryonic cell. You say, “Yeah, but they’re in my body.” I go, “Yes, there’s this reason. When after we’re born, every day of our lives, we lose up to a hundred billion cells, every day are dying. Just natural. They live, they die.” I says, “Everyday, while we’re alive like right now, we have to replace hundreds of billions of our cells because they die everyday.” I say, “Where do you get the replacement cells?”

[00:14:00] The answer is stem cells. I said, “What’s a stem cell?” I said, “Well, before you were born we would identify our cell.” I said, “Oh, that’s an embryonic cell right there.” I say, “One minute after you’re born, I find the very same cell.” I said, “Oh, that’s called the stem cell.” I said, “What’s the difference?” I say, “Once you’re born I can’t call them embryo anymore. You’re not an embryo. Now you’re born so what was before birth was called an embryo cell. After birth, they’re called the stem cell but to me, they’re embryonic cells. What are they there for? We need to replace these hundreds of billions of cells everyday otherwise we will fall apart and die very quickly. Everyday, I don’t care what your age are, you’re growing. I said, “Okay, stem cells. These are the replacement cells replaced anything that we’ve lost; bones, skin, muscle, brain, whatever.” Then I go, “Okay, what was my work?” Forty-eight years ago I would put one stem cell in a petri dish all by itself.
Just one cell and it would divide every ten or twelve hours. At first there’s one cell then there’s two, then there’s four, then there’s eight, then sixteen. It doubles and doubles and doubles and doubles. After a week, I have fifty thousand cells in the petri dish. Here’s the point, it all came from one cell. The relevance? Fifty thousand genetically identical cells. They’re all siblings, they all came from the same parent. They’re all genetically identical. That’s not the experiment. This is experiment, when you grow cells in a petri dish, you put them in a culture dish and then you put it what it’s called culture medium fluid. The reason is this, cells are like fish. They have to live in an aquarium. When you cut yourself open, fluid leaks out. I go, “Yeah, that’s because your skin is covering up this aquarium inside of all these fluid and all the cells,” I go and so I said, “What is chemical composition and culture medium?” I go, “Oh, it’s the equivalent of blood. If I’m going to grow a mouse cells, I take mouse blood.

[00:16:00] Say, what’s the chemistry of the mouse blood? I tried to make that artificially. That’s called culture medium. In fact, our human cells … Now I change the composition of culture medium because I look at human blood. What’s in that? It make culture medium for human blood cells. Culture medium is blood. Here’s the point, fifty thousand genetically identical cells split them up into three petri dishes. I changed the chemical composition of the culture medium, the equivalent of blood. I changed it slightly in each of the three dishes so they’re not in the exact, same environment. They got chemistry a little different. In dish one, the cells form muscle. In dish two, the cells form bone. In dish three, the cells form fat cells. Now you’re left with one profoundly important question and the question is this, what controls the fate of the cells?

Guy: Environment.

Stu: The culture medium.

Bruce: Exactly. The culture medium, environment, the chemistry. I go, “Yes, not the genes.” We said the genes control us. I say, “No, wait. They were all exact same genes so the difference between muscle, bone and fat cells was not determined by the genes, they all had the same genes. It was determined by the environment. Now I say, “Wait.” You too handsome guys look in the mirror and what do you see back? Two handsome guys. Two single individual guys, Stu and Guy. I go, “You see yourself as single individual, human entity.” I go, “It’s a misperception of a singleness for this reason. Here’s the true bottom line. You are made up to fifty trillion cells. Your body is a community. The cells are the living entity. When I say Stu, I say Guy, I say Bruce, that’s a name I give to a community of fifty trillion cells. The cells again are those single living entity. Here’s the point. Jokey but fun and true. You are skin covered petri dish. Underneath your skin are fifty trillion cells growing in this petri dish.

[00:18:00] I said what’s the growth medium? What? We’re already great on that. Then I say, “Yeah, but if you change the chemical composition of the blood then you change the fate of the cells. That’s what I showed in the plastic dish to the cell. It doesn’t make a difference if the cells in the plastic dish or the skin dish, it’s still response to the chemical composition of the culture medium, the blood. Now, we’re coming to … Here’s the critical point. Fifty trillion cells, the fate of the cells is determined by the chemistry of the blood. Then the next question is, who’s the chemist? Who controls what chemistry’s in the blood? I go, “The brain. The brain is a chemist.” I go, “Yeah,” but now get’s one exciting part, here it comes. What chemistry should the brain put into the blood? I go, “Ah, it’s dependent on the mind.” The mind does an interpretation of the world and then through that interpretation the brain releases chemistry to coordinate you in the world that you see so that your biology is continuously being adjusted by the chemistry of the blood which is continuously changing based on your perceptions of life.

[00:20:00] Change your perception of life, you change the chemistry and then you change the genetics. Point like this, if you close your eyes and then open them up and somebody you love is in front of your face, your brain interprets, “Ah, love.” I go, “Oh.” Then the mind sees love, the brain converge that image into chemistry that matches love. It releases chemicals into the blood like Dopamine which is pleasure. “Oh, yeah. There’s the one I love. I feel so much pleasure.” They releases oxytocin, another chemical. That’s the one that’s bonding. “Yes, that’s the one I love. That’s my partner, bonding.” It releases another chemical called vasopressin which makes you attractive so that your partner goes, “Oh, I love that person. They’re so attractive.” That’s chemistry. One of the last ones is also important is when you’re in love and the mind, the brain releases what it’s called growth hormone. Growth hormone is the name it says, it’s growth of the system, maintenance of the system. Then I go, “So what is the result of the culture medium called blood?” When the mind sees love, I go, “Oh.” Dopamine, oxytocin, vasopressin, growth hormone.

This is added to the chemistry and I go, “Ah. What does that do?” I say, “Well, that’s a culture medium.” I say, “What are those elements do?” They make you healthy. I go, “How do you know?” I say, “Anybody that’s fallen in love you look at them and go, ‘Oh, look how they glow. They’re so happy in love. They’re so healthy.” It’s like love makes you healthy. I go, “Yeah, because love is translated into the chemistry that goes into the culture medium that adjust the genetics.” Now, let’s take the alternative view and then we got both sides to this thing. You’re there when your eyes closed but this time when you open them, not somebody you love is there, something that makes you afraid puts fear or you’re scared. I go, “Oh. My mind see something that scares me.” Guess what? Love chemistry is not going to be released from the brain in fear.

[00:22:00] Fear causes stress hormones to be released from the brain. It causes inflammatory agents that regulate immune system, getting you ready for what? Fight or flight. I’m changing the chemistry of the blood because my brain is not releasing love chemicals. It’s releasing fight or flight. I go, “Oh, well it changes the genetics of the cell. It changes the behavior of the system because you change the culture medium. What was the point? Whatever is in my mind is translated into chemistry that makes my body match what I see. When I see something I love, I want to take it in and grow. When I see something that scares me, I want to wall it off and protect myself. What’s the point? The behavior and the genetics of the cell were not controlled by the genes. That is a belief that we have heard our whole life. Genes turn on and genes turn off and control our lives and therefore, I don’t control them, they control me.

Here’s the problem, while I was doing that work forty-eight years ago, it reveal the genes did not activate themselves. The genes were controlled by the environmental information. If you change that environmental information, you change the genetic activity. Relevance? If genes control your life which is what I was teaching medical student, you’re a victim. I didn’t picked the genes, they gave me cancer, they gave me heart attacks. I had nothing to do with it. I’m a victim. The new Science almost sounds the same as the old Science because the old Science is called genetic control which means control by genes. The new Science which I saw forty-eight years ago but was only recently named in 1990s so I was twenty years before they even saw it. The new Science is called epigenetic control so it sounds the same. It’s a revolution. “Epi” means above, so when I say genetic control, I’m saying control by genes, you’re a victim of your genes. When I say epigenetic control, that’s the new Science that says control above, epi, control above the genes. I go, “What’s above the genes?”

Stu: Yeah, right. It’s the head.

Bruce: Mind.

Stu: The mind.

Bruce: [00:24:00] The mind controls your head and people go, “Is that really real? Is that just a new age idea?” I go, “Look. A hundred years people have heard about the placebo effect.” What’s a placebo effect? “Oh, doctor says I got this brand new purple pill that’s going to be the magic pill that’s going to fix your life. It’s purple. See how magical it is?” You believe and say, “Oh, purple. God, that’s a special pill. That’s the one that’s going to help me.” You believe that if you take the pill you’ll get better. Then you find out down the road, it was just sugar pill. Then you go, “Oh, yeah, yeah. That’s called the placebo effect.” I say, “What is a placebo effect?” A belief healed you not the pill. The pill was sugar. When you got healed from a placebo, you got healed not because of any chemistry in the pill. You got healed because your belief chemistry, from belief that’s making the chemistry puts health back into the system and it’s called the placebo effect. What’s it mean?

Your health is controlled by your thought not by the pill. Everyone, “Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know that.” Therefore, that’s like the basis of positive thinking, positive thinking, placebo effect. “Oh, this pill is the thing that’s positive. It’s going to make me better. I get better.” I go, “Positive thinking.” I want people to understand this because it’s much more important and that is this, negative thinking is equally powerful to positive thinking but it works in the opposite direction. A placebo, a positive thought heals you. A negative thought and a scientific name for that is called nocebo. A negative thought is equally powerful but it can kill you. A negative thought can cause cancer, diabetes, heart attacks. It can cause all those things with no reason in the physical body for it except for the thought. Why? A negative thought releases negative chemicals.

[00:26:00] The negative chemicals shut down and alter the system and end up causing disease. That’s why we now recognize that over ninety percent of disease on this planet has nothing to do with our genetics and everything that we do with our environment and our perception of the environment and I say so, what is the bottom line conclusion? You guys are ready because you know it. The bottom line is this, is that it’s the belief that controls the biology not the genes. If you’re programmed with negative beliefs, then your life is a struggle uphill even in your health issues. Your health issues are going to be, you’re going to be sickly all your life. You say, “Oh, because of the genes?” I go, “No, no.” Genes only count for one percent of illness, not more than that.

All the rest came from the belief issues of what not living in harmony, so that takes us back, now let’s just step one farther back and go, consider this body as a physical vehicle like a car, you’re the driver. If you got crap driving education then you’re going to tear your car. That’s as simple as that. If you’re that hard head teenager and you slam it on the gas and hit on the brakes, you’re going to cause that car to be in the junkyard real fast. If you become a conscientious driver, your car could last forever and the idea is that. This biology is designed to last at least a hundred and forty years. The failing [inaudible 00:26:47] that what ends up in the hospital, what ends up in the grave is not because the body was defective. It’s the driver education and the driver education is the problem. That is where the mind comes from.

Guy: I have a question if you want to because that was just amazing, Bruce like seriously. When you tell me about the environment, is there anything else that affects this thing you know if you like to the cells outside of our thoughts that we should be aware of?

Bruce: [00:28:00] Let’s put it this way, the hierarchy of all things is mind. It opens the mind in everything. Let me tell you how powerful mind is because you already know. If you want to walk across hot coals, you better have your mind believing you could walk across high coals. Don’t walk across the hot coals and then in the middle of the walk you say, “I wonder if this is true.” You get the mind to say “You’re going to get burned.” You know that. I say, “What keeps you from getting burned? Your belief.” I have an external thing that should hurt me but my mind overrides it. Number two, I’ll give you another one. If I ask you guys, I say, “Listen. Hey Stu, Guy. Can you grab a parking lot and pick up a car? You go, “Not really. No, I can’t do that.” Let me show you, I got a weightlifter. I got a picture of a weightlifter. Muscles bulging, perspiration coming out, head like lifting this car.” I go, “Wow, that’s really great.

It takes a big weightlifter to do that.” Then, I’ll show you series of magazines, newspaper articles collected around the world of women lifting up a car when a child is caught underneath it. I have so many stories of that. I say, “Well, she’s not an athlete. She’s not even trained. She’s got no real muscle mass and she lift up the damn car. How did she do that, man? He says, “She didn’t have a belief in her head at that moment that she couldn’t lift up the car.” Her kid was under there so guess what? I’m lifting up the car, I have no negative belief about that and they do. I say, “Wow, so we are that powerful.” Yeah, an untrained person with an unaffected belief system can go on and lift up a car right now. Now the last one and this is what I want to get to your questions too about it is simply this, [Gallen 00:29:04] south in the United States, we got crazy people in my opinion. They’re called fundamentalist that work themselves up in the religious exorcist, starts speaking in tongues and craziness like that.

[00:30:00] Many of them play with poisonous snakes, very poisonous snakes just as poisonous as the damn ones you got in Australia that kill everything. You know, we got those things too. They play with these poisonous snake. They’re called snake handlers. If they get bitten by the snake, usually not a problem except about a month ago one of them died but really, did that happen? Cool. No, no. I want to tell you about the important part. Some of them drink strychnine poison in harmful toxic concentrations and have no adverse effects. Why? Because just like walking across a hot coals, their mind is God will protect me. It’s not God might protect me, God will protect me so there’s no doubt in their mind. I say, “What is that no doubt have?” I said. It is so powerful that in the presence of an external toxic poison strychnine, it can prevent harmful death or illness from the poison. From what? The mind. I say, “Go back to your question. Well, what if the environment can influence?”
I say, “Well, a lot of things in environment can influence you but the first thing is, what is your mind perception about your being weak or vulnerable to these things?” If you find yourself, “Oh, that could kill me.” Then be very careful because you’re already giving the situation power to kill you. If you get like those people and they call it testifying, proving that God protects them and they do it without doubt, they play with these snakes, they drink this poison and they have no effect. You say, “What’s the most powerful?” The answer is obviously beyond the physical environment, the more powerful thing is the thought. I can walk across the hot coals. I can lift a car and I can drink toxic strychnine poison. Now you say, “Okay, good. We have an hierarchy of control. Number one, that’s the [inaudible 00:31:13] we’re the real thing.

Guy: If beliefs become a perceptions and when you perceive the world and that shifts a lot of your actions. I know people, they are actively trying to change but they keep running to the program over and over and over and over again and they’re still caught up and it becomes almost like, “Oh, I’m going a positive thing. I’m going a positive thing,” but they feel like they can’t make the change. From what you’re saying, most of the programs done before we are seven years old.
Bruce:[00:32:00] The moment you’ve given up that you are not powerful, it’s the moment that you are not powerful. That’s as simple as that. The moment, as I said, walk across the hot coals, as long as you keep the thought that I am powerful and I’m not going to get burned, you will not get burned but the moment, the instant that a thought comes in and says, “Maybe this is not true.” It’s the instant you will get burned. I say, “Where did you get your beliefs from? Where did you get the belief from being vulnerable and weak and frail as a human being?” I say, “Oh, we were programmed that way. We were taught. This will get you sick. This virus will kill you. This bacteria is going to make you get diarrhea. This cancer cells going to give you cancer. All of a sudden it’s like, “Huh, I am a victim of these things.” I go, “No, you’re not. You’re a victim of this thing. It becomes a critical part. It’s really important for us to understand a very secret message and that is this; your mind has been programmed for the first seven years. That’s the matrix and it’s real.

[00:34:00] As I said the Jesuits for four hundred years have said, “Give me a child until it’s seven and I will show you the man.” Have it acknowledged to you and to everyone that if I get your first seven years of programming, I own your life. All of a sudden I got, “That’s when you lost your power.” Let go of that program which is an example of red pill is, the red pill is falling in love as an example. I say, “No matter how your life sucked up until that moment you met that person, the moment you met that person is all I can say you got new life. Why? How that happen? The answer is it was a one moment you stop playing all the distant powering programs you have been fed your life. I said, “Why should you have been fed disempowering programs?” I’ll give you an answer. If you live in fear, you will pay any amount to anybody to protect you. The church did this because they said there’s hell, damnation, all the layers of hell, all that, put the pictures in your mind. “How can I get out of that?” “Give us ten percent. Give us ten percent of your life, we’ll get you out of that. You sinned? Give us an extra twenty five percent. We know the guy, we’ll make a deal. We’ll get you out of there.”

It’s like they’ve been living off of you because you’re afraid that you’re disconnected and that they are the connectors and if you don’t pay them, you’re not going to get connected, so fear. Number two. When the fear of, how I wasn’t that strong, guess what? The next fear became the powerful one as the fear of your health. Guess who runs that? The medical people. They’re both religions. Just the priest wear black and the Science priest wear white. Which coat are you listening? To the black coat or the white coat? Your listening to the white coat, your fears are God and damnation, you pay them money. You listen to the guy in a white coat and says, “Oh, you’re going to get cancer. You’re going to have diabetes. You’re going to have a heart attack. Who’s going to fix you?” “How much do I have to pay?” “More than you have. That’s how it’s settled.” I say, “For what reason?” Because you bought in to a belief that you were frail. You bought in and believe that genes are going to cause you illness and it turns out, no. Genes don’t cause illness. Your thoughts cause illness.

[00:36:00] If you are programmed to believe you are weak, then you become weak. If you are programmed to believe you’re going to get cancer, you’re going to get cancer. Because the genes caused it? No. The chemistry from this belief caused it. What’s freedom all about? The freedom is freedom from fear. Fear of what? Death? Health issues? Poverty? I say, as long as they hold that fear over you by definition you are powerless because the fear is something you can’t overcome and therefore you will give everything to those people who promised you health or salvation. I’m going, “What a waste of your life and your money because when you fell in love, when you got healthy instantaneously just by being in love, that was a personal experience. I say, “Wait a minute. My life suck but I can change it.” It’s like, “Yes. You can change it but you have to understand you have been programmed and until you get out of the program, the program wants your life.” You can get out of the program because you can reprogram. If you couldn’t reprogram this, this would be a very bad interview with this moment because [crosstalk 00:36:34]

Stu: I don’t get it. There’s nothing we can do.

Bruce: Your life sucks, too bad.

Guy: That’s the next question. They’ll definitely be listening as this is going on like, “Oh, that’s me and I want to change. I don’t want to live fear anymore. I want to …

Stu: I want a honeymoon program. Halloweens stole it.

Bruce: Prep up a program itself. I’ve been on it for twenty years and I guarantee you it is the best program of all. The question is this, first of all, where do beliefs come from where we set the mind? That is the first place of confusion for this reason. We say “the mind” like there’s one mind but there are two, two parts. Here’s a very important part. The two minds work together but they’re not the same thing. They have different functions and they learn in different ways. That’s the critical part. I say what are the two minds? The latest evolution of the mind is called the conscious mind. It’s right behind your forehead, right back here. Guess what? That’s where you are, your personal identity, your source, your spirit, your energy. Whoever you are, your source, you’re back there. You’re in there. You’re sort of like in a desk looking out these eyes. You go, “Wow. What’s on TV today?” Open your eyes, there you go. That’s our show. The conscious mind is unique because it’s creative. In other words, I asked Guy in the interview, I said, “Tell me what you want from your life?”

[00:38:00] The moment you start to answer that, that’s by definition creative because you’re explaining something you don’t have. You’re looking at the future, it’s something you want. The sub-conscious mind which is the first mind is basically a stimulus response, reflex habit mind. It’s not very creative. It learns a program and every time you push the button, it will play the program perfectly every time, for a whole lifetime. You’re going to learn it when you’re a one year old and for ninety-nine years, every time you push the button that behavior want to place will play exactly the same. It’s a recording. Conscious mind; creative, sub conscious mind; habits. They’re programs like an all fashioned jukebox, you push that one that record’s going to play. It’s going to play all the way until you push the next button and then that record will play. What’s the issue? The conscious mind being creative has your wishes and desires; health, happiness, love, success. I don’t care what … That’s the creative part. Tell me what you want; conscious mind. The subconscious minds got habits. I say, “Where did you get the habits.” This is the most important thing.

[00:40:00] It’s the first seven years of your life, the brain function is not operating a consciousness. That takes time, that’s like getting to maturity. It takes seven years before these things starts to do the conscious, creative mind. I say, “What was he doing for the first seven?” He was in the lower vibration of frequency, brain frequency. That when you put wires on your head called EEG called theta. Theta is imagination. Go back to a kid under seven. They mix the real world and the imaginary world seamlessly. Why? Because they’re operating from theta, imagination. The parents says, “Give me the broom.” The kid looks up and says, “I don’t know what you’re talking about. It’s a horse.” To the kid at that moment, it is a horse. Their imagination has taken a broom made a horse out it to them, and that real moment they are a horse, so imagination. What else is theta? Wake up everybody. Here we go. Bruce is going to tell you what theta is. Hypnosis. Theta is hypnosis. I say, “Why have seven years of hypnosis?” Point. I’ll ask you just you know, without getting in the exact answer or near it. I say, “How many rules do you have to know to be a functional member of a family and of community?” How many? Thousands.

Guy: Huge.

Bruce: I mean, think about it this way. If you say, how your father talks to a kid is different than how your father talks to an adult. It’s different that how your father talks to your mother which is different than how your father talks to a policeman. She’s right there. I go, “How do you talk to your kid? How do you talk to an adult? How do you to your mother? How do you talk to a policeman? It’s like everyone of those has to be learned if you want to be a functional member of society. I go, “She says it’s one thing.” You’ve got to learn thousands. I say, “Teach an infant thousands of things.” You say, “I know you’re one year old but here’s a book. Read this book.” It’s like, “Come on. Kids can’t learn that way.” I said, “How can you teach them thousands of rules?” The answer is put the mind in hypnosis for seven years. Let the kid observe the mother, the father, the siblings and the community. Record what they observe. They see how your father responds to a stimulus? How your mother responds to a stimulus? How your community responds? What do they do? Download? They’re just like video cameras, their eyes are open. They’re recording everything. Guess what?

[00:42:00] The subconscious is a database. The fundamental programs are behavior that allow you to be member of a family in a community were not learned in a schoolroom situation. They were just directly downloaded by hypnosis. Let me tell you this. You’re uh, look who’s going to tell you that bitch. Here’s a bitch. The behavior you have downloaded are not your wishes and your desires, they’re behaviors of other people, the way they live. The fundamental behavior’s in your subconscious have nothing to do with you, the way you want, what you want, how you want, what you … That’s your role then. You are playing your mother’s behavior, your father’s behavior. You’re playing everybody else’s when your playing from the subconscious. After a seven, you get to put the hands on the wheel now because now you’re driving with a conscious mind. You say, “Okay. Well then screw the programs that I got, you know the negative programs. Screw them. Okay?” I go, “Uh, that’s not your choice to this reason.” Are you ready?

Now, part two. Part one is the programs in your subconscious are not yours and they don’t support who you are. Number two, when do you play subconscious programs? You say, “I can get my hands on the wheel. I could drive the car. I don’t need the plan.” I go, “Uh, but here’s something, the monkey wrench.” When you’re in thought, when you’re thinking, you’re not paying attention, so I got this, I’ll get this one out here. Hey, Guy. What do you do on Sunday at 3 o’clock?

Guy: [inaudible 00:43:19] one.

Bruce: Expression.

Guy: Yeah.

Bruce: I’m going to tell why was it important because the moment I ask you that question, the answer wasn’t out here. The answer was in here. When you answer the question, what do you do at 3 o’clock on Sunday, you had to go in your head. The moment you were in your head then you were not driving the vehicle. Why? Because you’re thinking.

Guy: Got it.

Bruce: [00:44:00] Guess what? The moment you were thinking then it doesn’t mean your behavior stops, your behavior by default is taken over by the subconscious. The subconscious know how to walk, knows how talk. The subconscious knows all the behavior, all things you need to know. It can drive the car. It can do all the things that you know how to do. Guess what? If you’re having a thought, you walked down the street and you don’t go “stop.” “Okay, good. I got the thought now you can go back again.” You can continue walking. If you’re driving a car and you have the thought you don’t crash in the things, you continue driving. The bottom line, the bottom line, Science has found that we are in thought ninety five percent of the day.

Guy: Yeah, I was going to say like the amount of people you know I tell you like you’re thinking about your past, your thinking about your future. Like when you have to stop and smell the rose, isn’t that actually just be pleasant.

Bruce: Five percent. Five percent. I say why is that relevant? Then I say this, “Well that, man, I you were thinking ninety-five percent of the day then by definition your behavior during that ninety-five percent is not controlled by conscious mind because it’s not paying attention. It is playing the programs of the subconscious.” As important point, psychologist will tell you seventy percent or more of the downloaded programs before age seven are negative, disempowering and self sabotaging behaviors. Why is that important? Now we stand back, we say, “What that lifting just say.” He goes like this, “You have the power to control this vehicle but ninety-five percent of the day, you use that conscious power and thought. When it’s in thought, by definition its not putting it’s hands on the wheel so ninety-five percent of the day you’ve been driven by programs, programs of your wishes and desires. No.

[00:46:00] Programs of your parents, your community, the way you live.” And I go, “Seventy percent of those disempowering.” I go, “Everyday, you wake up and you say, ‘Today I’m going out to get my wishes. I’m going to find love, I’m going to get the best day on job. I’m going to be the healthiest person. I’m going to control this vehicle.” You walk out the door and guess what? The rest of the day you have nothing to control because your mind has been thinking about all the things you should be doing and your subconscious is seventy percent of that day or seventy percent of that ninety-five percent of the day, seventy percent of that is dragging you down. Guess what? You’re the one that doesn’t see it.

Guy: Yeah. I think most people wouldn’t be aware of that they’re running by programs.

Bruce: They can’t be aware for simple reason, consciousness is awareness but if consciousness is thinking, then consciousness is not aware of that moment. The behavior that you play when you’re not paying attention is not your behavior and you’re the one that doesn’t even see it. Let me give you a story that I’ve given a lecture and everybody, they laugh because they got it. This is how important it is. I say, you probably had a friend. You knew your friends behavior very, very well and you happen to know your friend’s parent. One day, you start to see that your friend has the same behavior as their parent and you get all excited because, “Oh, oh. Hey, you know Bill? You’re just like your dad.” In fact, Bill, he goes ballistic. Bill goes, “How can you compare me to my dad?” Everyone laughs. I go, “That’s the most profound story in the whole world.” What? What? I go, everyone else can see that Bill behaves like his dad. The only one who doesn’t see it is Bill. Explain that.

[00:48:00] I go, “Oh, yeah.” Ninety-five percent of the day Bill is thinking, nine-five percent of the day, he is defaulting the subconscious which was programmed by his dad. When he’s playing, his subconscious dad programs, he’s the one that doesn’t see it because he’s only playing it, because he’s not paying attention. I say, what’s the significance? I say, then nine-five percent of the day we are sabotaging our lives with programs that had do not support us. We are the ones that don’t see it and therefore when our lives don’t work out, we own victim. Hey, don’t blame me. I wanted to be successful. I wanted to be healthy. I wanted to have a great relationship. I go, “Yeah, but that eye is working five percent so the nine-five percent of your life that’s manifesting had nothing to do with your eye. You were playing sabotaging programs and you didn’t see it and because you didn’t see it, you own victim.” It’s not me. I wouldn’t have done that. I go, “No, you wouldn’t have done that but your father did.”

Guy: The program in it is so crucial and so what tips outside of generating the feeling of love could you give someone listening to this that would help change the program in?

Bruce: We already discussed two minds; conscious mind, spirit connected, creative, wishes and desires, subconscious mind, programs, habits. You go, “Uh, not only they have those two different functions but they learn in different ways.” That’s the next problem. I go, “What do you mean?” I say, “The conscious mind is creative. The conscious mind is creative.” As I just told, only one percent or less of disease is related to change. If you didn’t know that a minute ago, your conscious mind say, “Oh, yeah. I just learned lesson one percent.” I say, “Did that change the program of the subconscious mind?” I go, “No.” You know why? That’s not how subconscious mind learns. Oh, so the conscious mind is creative, it can learn in many creative ways. Conscious mind listen to your program and the audience that you have listens to your program. They download this information. They’re learning conscious mind, learning. They could read a self help book. “Yeah, yeah. Read the book. Oh, that sounds fabulous, but my life is still the same. Ah, I got an idea.”

[00:50:00] Conscious mind just learned something. Did the conscious mind change? No. Why? Because it doesn’t learn that way. Therefore, we have super educated conscious mind, they go, “Oh, yeah. This is the way to make a word. This is great.” Is that your life? I go, “No. Only five percent because ninety-five percent you’re still operating the subconscious and it did not learn that way. I say “Well, how does the subconscious learn?” Now, you ask direct. My question is this, first thing is this, there is a tendency to talk to ourselves, self talk. This is bad behavior, Bruce. Don’t eat that doughnut. You know that’s going to kill you. They’re circles of death, they will kill you. Do not eat that doughnut. My conscious mind is totally aware of all the reasons and then I find myself eating a doughnut. I get mad at myself. “You stupid idiot, didn’t I tell you not to eat the doughnut? What are you doing eating the doughnut?” I go, “Uh, you were talking to the subconscious mind, you’re trying to telling something.”

Guess what? This is a joke. There’s nobody in this subconscious mind, it’s a machine. It’s a record playback machine. There’s nobody in there. Sort of like you have a CD, you recorded a program on it, you push play the programs playing and you say, “I don’t like the program.” I say, “Go up and talk to the player. Tell the player you don’t like the program. Tell the player you want different program.” I say, “How long of talking to the player will it take for that program to change?” The answer is never. Why? Because there’s nobody in there to listen to you. The first thing is that trying to talk to himself to change behavior is like futile and frustrating. This doesn’t work. Say, how does it work? I go, “Oh. Well first, I already told you one aspect.” The first seven years, the mind is in a state of hypnosis, theta vibration and it’s downloading automatically regardless of … Your conscious mind is not even there. It’s just recording and downloading. You can add data by hypnosis. I say, how do you that?

[00:52:00] You say, you get the mind into theta. What’s theta? It’s below consciousness. I said, “How do you get in the theta?” I go, “Interesting.” Every night when you go to bed, guess what? You’re going to bed, you start with consciousness, you’re awake and you end up to sleep. You start with a high vibration, alpha or beta consciousness and you end up sleeping, delta the lowest vibration. Guess what? Between alpha and beta consciousness and delta, in the middle theta. Every night just as you’re falling asleep, just as consciousness is just letting go … When consciousness is letting go, guess what? You are now in theta. If you put earphones on as you’re going to bed with a program of what you want in your life, the moment consciousness starts to drift, guess what’s operating? Theta. What’s it doing? It’s a direct link to the subconscious. You’re in hypnosis. Whatever is playing on the earphones is now going into subconscious mind, not conscious mind. Conscious mind didn’t even hear it. Self hypnosis, auto hypnosis, subliminal tapes, whatever that’s what they call it, that’s one way.

Guy: One way. One way.

Bruce: [00:54:00] Then hypnosis only controls the subconscious program until age seven. I say, “Oh, after a seven, now I’m operating consciousness.” How did the new program get in to the subconscious? I go, “After age seven, you create new programs by habituation, practice, repeating something over and over again until the track is built in and now it’s a behavior, it’s a habit, push the button it will play over and over again, no thinking, you don’t have to recall it, you’ll learn how to walk while you practice.” Once you learn how to walk, you don’t have to go back and say like today you say like, “Stu, I want to go in the kitchen. Okay, let’s start walking. Left foot, right foot.” You don’t have to do that. You are programmed. All you have to say is I want to go in the kitchen. Automatically, he’ll carry you in the kitchen. It’s a habit. After age seven, you can put new programs in but you have to do it through habituation.

You have to repeat a process religiously and even if it sounds weirder and crap because it’s not your life. Let’s say you’re very sick and I’m putting in a program, what? I am healthy. You say, “Why would you put that program in?” I’m saying because if the program in the mind is I am healthy, then what is the body going to do with that program? It’s going to create health. If you’re sickly and the mind says no I am healthy, because that’s the program then the mind’s job is to coordinate the biology to match the belief. That’s what happens so our behavior matches the belief. If I’m putting I am healthy then the function of the mind is, “Well, I got to be healthy,” and they will do that automatically. Putting it in is difficult because you’re sick as a dog and then you’re going, “I am healthy.” It’s like it doesn’t sound right, but the fact is I don’t care it sounds right, keep repeating it.

Stu: That’s really interesting as well because Guy, I remember what I was telling the other day.

Guy: Yeah. Actually is.

Stu: It’s exactly right. I’m of the belief that because we’ve learned so much over the ten years we’ve been doing this and I’m nourishing my immune system daily doing all these crazy things that make me feel unbreakable, I’m never going to get sick. I express myself to everybody. I said, “No. I’m not going to get sick. There’s no reason for me to get sick. I have no reason.” I’m forty-three now and the last time I got sick was when I was twenty-six. I remember it emphatically. It’s the afternoon of my twenty-sixth birthday and I had a stomach bug. I’ve got kids, young kids and they bring bugs home from school and we’ve had wives of pneumonia through our place and I don’t get it. I always tell everybody, “Well, there’s no reason for me to get sick. I’m not going to get sick.” I don’t and I wonder were there … Well, I guess it does connect to exactly what you’ve been saying for that.

The children are raised in an environment that you anticipate that they’re going to sick so that in their world if they get sick it’s like, “Oh, that’s okay.” Except this one. I teach in chiropracticologies and one of the most interesting thing about chiropractic families is they rarely ever see a doctor, take an aspirin or anything. Why? Because their belief system which they teach from the very beginning of that child’s life is, “You’re the one that can heal yourself. You’re the one with chemistry inside. We don’t need to go to a doctor.” Other people, there’s a joke in because this is a program. Many years ago, I love the joke. It goes like this, most children grew up in a family where if somebody is sick, what do they hear? “Oh, mommy’s sick, she has to go to the doctor. Daddy’s sick, he has to go to … You’re sick, you have to go to the doctor. First seven years, I’m downloading. What did I just download? What did I just download? If I’m sick, I don’t fix it. If I’m sick, I go to the doctor. I go, “Oh.” I hear the jokey part, “You’re right. Nobody said the doctor had to do anything. You have to go to the doctor.

Guess what? How many people get well? In the car on the way to the doctor or sitting in the doctor’s office waiting and I realize, “I’m not as sick as I was before.” The answer was this, we were always capable of self healing until we put a belief in the front. The belief in front was before healing can occur, go to the doctor. As I said, the joke was, nobody said the doctor had to do anything, go to the doctor. By completing step one which you’ve inserted in there was never there before but now you put it in there programmed go to the doctor, by completing step one just go into the doctor, you’ve already allowed the self healing to engage itself. You could have avoid it the whole damn thing if you would have the kid say, “Look, tell the kid. You can heal yourself.

Stu: Exactly.

You were powerful to do this. You don’t need to do this, just get yourself together right here, program them that. Why? Because if you program them to go to the doctor you’ve disempower them because you’re saying, “You have no control over this, the doctor does. You are not powerful.”

Guy: Such a huge, isn’t it? It’s so huge.

Bruce: The joke as I said, how many people … Wow. It’s like the numbers are amazing because they sit there in the doctor’s office going, “Oh, I’m okay. I don’t need to see them now.”

Stu: That’s right. I’m feeling better actually now today, funny you should mention it, doctor.
Bruce: Exactly. That’s an example of what? A program that gotten away of natural life. Natural life is to stay healthy. Programs are, “Oh, a flu is coming. A flue is coming. Did you get your flu shot? Oh, you didn’t get your flu shot, you’re going to get the flu.” If I’m not getting a flu shot, you are saying, “Oh, I did not prepare and therefore I am now exposed and I will get the flu because I didn’t do what the preparation was.” The fact was the flu shots have virtually no impact on the flu except it made you think it will protect you.

Stu: How many times do you think on average we have to practice these habits to ingrain them in the program?
Bruce: [01:00:00] That’s a very difficult thing because you can learn a habit instantaneously but an extreme learning experience you know, a person goes in a doctor’s office, “I’m happy and everything doctor …” “I’m sorry, you got cancer and you’re going to die.” It’s like “boom.” Just that, just like, “Oh. I’ve got to change my life.” They will change it right there. Most people, you have to exercise it. It’s a time consuming thing. Let’s go to the last way of educating the mind because that’s the secret that we need to know in a time of extreme changes on this planet and that it says there’s a new form of psychology called energy psychology. There’s a whole variety of modalities that are called energy psychology. I say what’s the common consequence of it? The answer is this, you can reprogram a belief system in five or ten minutes, one you’ve had fifty years in your life. I go, “How did you do that?” I said, “Because this modality is engaged something called super learning.”
What’s super learning? I go, “Did you ever go in a bookstore and see somebody reading a book by moving their finger down that needs to turn the page of their finger?” I say, “They are reading every word on the page by going like that.” Just as fast as I went like that, they can read the entire page of text. They could sit on a bookstore for a few minutes, turn the pages and read the entire book. That’s called super learning. If you engaged in this process which many of this energy psychology modalities do, you can use that process to download a new belief in five minutes, seven minutes and you can walk away with a whole new program. Habituation, self hypnosis, time element; there’s a time element involved. These energy psychologies, time elements down a minutes. It’s learning a way of, it get’s involved with … Okay, I don’t know how many minutes we have but …

Guy: Keep going. Keep going. It’s amazing.

Bruce: [01:02:00] You have two hemispheres in your head, the left and the right hemisphere. We know that functionally they’re different traits associated with each hemisphere. My left hemisphere is associated with logic and details. My right hemisphere is associated with emotions and big pictures. I say, “Oh, if I look at a brick wall with my left hemisphere, it sees every brick making up the wall. If I look at the brick wall with my right hemisphere, all I see is the brick wall. I don’t know I see the visual brick, I see the whole wall. If I’m on the left hemisphere, then everything I do is based on logic, it makes sense because it’s logic. If I’m on right hemisphere, it’s based on emotion. Guess what? Before age seven, both hemispheres work at exactly the same time, it’s called hemi sync, hemisphere synchronization. Hemisphere synchronization is super learning. That’s how a child can be three years old, living a family with three different languages and guess what?
A three year old is going to learn three different languages at separate entities, each under themselves, different vocabulary, different grammar. They learn that. It’s three. I say, after seven the brain goes into brain dominance. During the day, sometimes you’re more on the left and like a wave, sometimes you’re more on the left and later in the same day you’re more on the right. Then later, you’re more on the left so sometimes your more logical and sometimes you’re more emotional, depending on where your wave is. What’s the point? After age seven, both hemisphere is not in synchronization. I say what’s the consequence? I say a three year old can learn three languages at the same time. You get an eight year old, a nine year old. You say, “I’m going to teach you a new language.” All of a sudden they say, “One new language is a bitch.” Just learning one is difficult. Why? Learning is impaired when you’re not in synch.

[01:04:00] If you want to get super learning, you have to do a process to get both right and left hemisphere to start working together. Otherwise, I’m trying to change my program. Oh, yeah but I’m in my logic mind. I go, “What’s the problem?” I say, “You’re not affecting the emotional consequence of that problem, you’re just talking about the logical consequence, or I’m on the emotional side of my mind trying to deal with the problem but my logical brain is not involved with dealing with the problem.” You need both of them simultaneously to make super learning. There are exercises that engage the right and left hemisphere and when you’re in those exercises, you can download a new belief in minutes and walk away. I say these are very important. I got on my website brucelipton.com, simple. Under resources, I got about twenty or more of these modalities listed. They’re all different kinds of modalities but essentially I’ll still do the same thing, offer a super learning opportunity, rewrite a program, a subconscious. When you do that, you walk away with a new behavior. You can cancel any of the negative behaviors that you acquired in that seven year period and rewrite them.

This is the secret, this is the secret to life. Why? You’re only being sabotaged by your belief system, not by your conscious mind. Your conscious mind get all the wishes and desires in it. It’s only the subconscious program that screws you up. If you know how to rewrite the program then basically you says, “Well then, I could take my negative programs and put positive programs.” I say, “What happens if you rewrote them? The answer is this and it doesn’t make a difference is you’re conscious or you’re unconscious. You’re brain will be operating in your behalf taking you to your destination, whether it’s the subconscious program or the conscious wish. They both have the same destination at that point. The idea is now, we’re left with a last thing that I think it’s very necessarily to bring to the public before I go and that is this, you were programmed from the last trimester of pregnancy to the first seven years of life. I go, “Hey, guys. What programs you get when you were one year old? Tell me.”

[01:06:00] You’re going to go, “No, I have no idea. I wasn’t there.” I go, “Oh, now we’re going to have a problem because we want to reprogram, I don’t know what the programs are. How am I figure it out?” I go, “Answer. Ninety-five percent of your life comes from the program. Your life is a print out.” You want to know what the programs are? Look at your life and here’s how simple it is. Everything you like that comes into your life easily, how did it get there? The answer is you have a program to support that. Everything you want that you have to work hard at, put everything to, sweat over, struggle. Why are you working so hard? Answer: Inevitably, you have a program that doesn’t support that.

The point is simply this; look at your life. Anything that you want that you have struggled to get is because you have a program that doesn’t support that and so what you want, you want a program that gives you what you want so you make a statement that is positive, present tense. I am healthy. I am lovable. I’m whatever. Then those super learning moments you can download those beliefs and then when you’re not paying attention, guess what? You’re not playing destructive beliefs, you’re playing beliefs, I support you. You can create a honeymoon of beliefs. The way you want your life to be perfect, download those beliefs and whether you’re conscious or playing the automatic behavior, you’re still going to the same end, happily ever after.

Stu: Fantastic. That is absolutely profound. Unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Guy: Man, that’s amazing. That’s absolutely [inaudible 01:07:18].

Bruce: You know it already, you know it already. You’ve been sick, I’m sick for twenty years. Why? A belief that says sickness coming in? No.

Stu: Yeah. It never …

Bruce: Right power. Most people do not have power for. Most people have, “You are old. Fire is going to get you.” Bacteria is going to … germs. Do it. They’re more powerful than germs and viruses. You’re the ones that aren’t [crosstalk 01:07:44].
Guy: We’re more powerful than we can ever imagine it. That’s the [inaudible 01:07:48].

Stu: [01:08:00] For all of those that have to find out more which is I’m imagining it’s going to be pretty much everyone is listening to us today, you spoke about the modalities. You know we have all the information on brucelipton.com, so we could just send them there and they’ll find a bit in it.

Bruce: Absolutely. Very simple, one destinations. Do all your shopping there, it’s free. You can download all these articles and videos and YouTube thing is and get discussion. We can download all that, it’s all on the website.

Stu: Fantastic. That’s awesome.

Guy: I reckon, look … Actually we have one question we ask every guest on the show, Bruce, before we wrap it up. It’s what’s best piece of advice you’re going to be giving?

Stu: It’s interesting because it was the first piece of advice that I didn’t understand and it took me years to get there and I had to … It’s like, when I went back it’s like, “Oh, my God. I got that advice the first thing when I was growing cells.” My mentor, [Earth 01:08:41] Cunningsburgh was a famous biologist who did cloning, and that’s how I come ended up cloning stem cells. The first time I did a tissue culture with him, and I put this new pitcher placed with a new cells into the incubator and he looked at me and he said, “Now, Bruce when you come back in the morning, if those cells don’t look healthy, before you blame the cells recognize that the most likely problem is the environment in which you’re growing them. It took me years to realize that our health inside under the skin is not because what’s happening under the skin.

[01:10:00] Our health is a compliment to what’s going on in that outside world. If you find yourself unhealthy, the first thing we say, “Oh, my cells are stupid. My genes are stupid. The virus took me. The bacteria took me.” I go, “No. It wouldn’t ever have done that if you were not responding to something stressful in your past life. That if you understand the environment, keep your environment healthy, your cells will always stay healthy because ninety-nine percent of people on this planet got here with a genetic program to have health everyday of their lives. It’s only one percent. I mean, there are people that have a problem but when you get down the one percent, it’s not the massive situation we’re dealing with it.

Guy: We’d like to believe. Yeah.

Stu: No, it isn’t at all. That’s excellent.

Bruce: Yeah. The whole idea is this, the illness in your body almost always a reflection of you are not living in harmony in the environment in which you are living which is then best because when you blame the body, that’s why we take all the pharmaceutical drugs. They put the drugs in there. Fix the cells. I go, “The cells didn’t have the problem. They were just responding to what you were doing. Change what you’re doing and come back.” Placebo effect. I don’t need the real pill. Just give me the sugar pill.

Stu: Yeah, exactly. Just give me the drive to the doctors, I’ll be fixed.

Bruce: Don’t let me in the office. Just let me in the [living 01:10:40] room.

Stu: Brilliant. Brilliant.

Bruce: Bruce, thank you so much. We will send as many people as we physically can to your website brucelipton.com because everybody needs to listen to this information. That was just awesome. Thank you so much.
Bruce: I so appreciate you guys because you opened up an audience for people to revolve and they got to get off the mainstream because the mainstream media is owned by the corporate interest that own you ,corporations own us. Our lives are controlled by their money not by our wishes.Guy: Yeah. Thanks Bruce.

Stu: Thank you.

Bruce: Thank you.

Bruce Lipton

This podcast features Dr. Bruce Lipton who is an internationally recognised leader in bridging science and spirit. Stem cell biologist, bestselling author of The Biology of Belief and recipient of the 2009 Goi Peace Award, he has been a guest speaker on hundreds of TV and radio shows, as well... Read More

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7 Replies to “Dr Bruce Lipton – At Last, Scientific Proof of How Our Thoughts Can Make Us Healthy or Sick”

Good Podcast 🙂 Thank you Stu and Guy for making good conversation which we had in mind 🙂

Guy Lawrence says:

You’re welcome 🙂

Robyn says:

Amazing .. brilliant … fascinating … educational … Thank you both SO much for having him as a guest!

Guy Lawrence says:

Glad you enjoyed Robyn 🙂

balram meena says:

it is very useful knowledge for understanding our belief and mind programming.
thank you bruce sir and stu, guy

Guy Lawrence says:

You’re welcome Balram!

balram meena says:

it is very useful knowledge for understand belief and mind programming. thank you Bruce Sir and Guy and Stu

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